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This is the most easiest, and pragmatic solution by far. I would sign this one because while my idea would be fun AF we all know tq won't do it so meh.

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As much as I would love this, and suggested it yrs back. It's not a pragmatic solution. If you remove BP here completely then what are you left with? Only team pk and elite pk where anti matters. People would have to change their builds completely pretty much which as much as I hate to say it, is not fair.

Removing nobility is enough. People are complaining about kings and princes teaming up, that shouldn't matter if there is no nobility. There should still be a BP gap between non +12 and +12 chars, that's not the issue most people are having. People who can't even get +12 are not going to be leading good guilds that would win anyway, thus, Nobility is as far as you should have to go to making GW more fair.



This is another solution, though for GW not for CTF. CTF is fine how it is.
makes no sense , let me ask u a question ???

Can u start over now !!
Simple answer NEVER -0 Chance to build without bulking , All team events should be reworked to KILL the antibreak ****s . all people should get the chance that old people got .

about ur words , it still won't work a bulker will go new server make an antibreak full +12 with even 0 Blessed damage and will take everything alone . it mustn't work that way i believe

and i would say it for life U NEVER gonna survive vs these 45k+ attacks even if u r full +12 , that makes my suggestion the best for balancing it .
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GW is too long, it needs to be 30-60 mins at most and the winner should be the guild who has held the pole for the longest amount of time during GW (not the guild who sat in offline TG for 5 hours). The pole and gates need more HP, something similar to the HP of Tyrant. Also remove the BP you gain from donation from the map so if 3 kings are on one side it doesnt matter.
Exactly - This would help A LOT with guilds working together like in previous periods of the games life - where it took PUSHES as a guild all together and coordinated to get inside the castle and take the pole and hold it. instead of who can get the most assassins and archers logged off inside.

Who held the pole the longest = winner of GW sounds perfect to me - it would mean the time of gw ACTUALLY matters not just the last 15 seconds - Every moment enemies have the pole is moment your guild doesn't, would means fighting constantly to try and would sounds fun and would remove OTG issue
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Exactly - This would help A LOT with guilds working together like in previous periods of the games life - where it took PUSHES as a guild all together and coordinated to get inside the castle and take the pole and hold it. instead of who can get the most assassins and archers logged off inside.

Who held the pole the longest = winner of GW sounds perfect to me - it would mean the time of gw ACTUALLY matters not just the last 15 seconds - Every moment enemies have the pole is moment your guild doesn't, would means fighting constantly to try and would sounds fun and would remove OTG issue
I agree with this.
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Exactly - This would help A LOT with guilds working together like in previous periods of the games life - where it took PUSHES as a guild all together and coordinated to get inside the castle and take the pole and hold it. instead of who can get the most assassins and archers logged off inside.

Who held the pole the longest = winner of GW sounds perfect to me - it would mean the time of gw ACTUALLY matters not just the last 15 seconds - Every moment enemies have the pole is moment your guild doesn't, would means fighting constantly to try and would sounds fun and would remove OTG issue
Or perhaps it could be just like it is on nemesis. The guild who does the highest damage on pole in those 2 hrs will win. Simple as that
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Or perhaps it could be just like it is on nemesis. The guild who does the highest damage on pole in those 2 hrs will win. Simple as that
Then it would just be who has the most warriors and assassins focused on hitting the pole the whole time, instead of winning fights and who has the better placement of fighters and coordination to protect the pole / gates

But MOSTLY - Gw pole / Gates need more HP or something... 1 warrior or 1 assassins shouldn't be able to solo open a gate or kill a pole in 5 seconds. Same for the CTF home bases too easy to kill.

The idea to remove donation values for GW would work great also. Would mean 3 kings in one guild or alliance wouldn't matter and make issues of super stacked 1 sided less so as everyones BP would be normalized - long as you're full +12 you'd be good to go.
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The game is called Conquer for a reason its to conquer all players even the low lvl ones so get over it and stop whining on the forums

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Logic of most CO players:

If you hit me, I'm lagging
If you hit me twice, you're botting
If I hit you, you autopot
If I kill you, your bots aren't working

It is easier to blame bots than taking the blame for your lack of skills.

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Exactly - This would help A LOT with guilds working together like in previous periods of the games life - where it took PUSHES as a guild all together and coordinated to get inside the castle and take the pole and hold it. instead of who can get the most assassins and archers logged off inside.

Who held the pole the longest = winner of GW sounds perfect to me - it would mean the time of gw ACTUALLY matters not just the last 15 seconds - Every moment enemies have the pole is moment your guild doesn't, would means fighting constantly to try and would sounds fun and would remove OTG issue
It's a shame that TQ wont listen
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makes no sense , let me ask u a question ???

Can u start over now !!
Simple answer NEVER -0 Chance to build without bulking , All team events should be reworked to KILL the antibreak ****s . all people should get the chance that old people got .

about ur words , it still won't work a bulker will go new server make an antibreak full +12 with even 0 Blessed damage and will take everything alone . it mustn't work that way i believe

and i would say it for life U NEVER gonna survive vs these 45k+ attacks even if u r full +12 , that makes my suggestion the best for balancing it .
I still don't agree with taking it this far. I don't play anti, but it would be unfair for those who have invested time and money into making their accounts ANTI. If they made all events like skill they would **** over everyone who built like this. I think removing donations for the events is a pragmatic approach and doesn't kill their build vs everyone.
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I still don't agree with taking it this far. I don't play anti, but it would be unfair for those who have invested time and money into making their accounts ANTI. If they made all events like skill they would **** over everyone who built like this. I think removing donations for the events is a pragmatic approach and doesn't kill their build vs everyone.

ok , skip the anti thing ?

can u survive 45k attackers swipe as full +12 char ?, if u can , can u survive 2 swipes in gw or ctf poles ?? lets say u could ?? lets say also u have over 200 immu , can u stand with a king at almost 230 Strike "or nearly 240 with a monk in team" ?

alright , you gonna say ill go stg , can u take poles on stg ?? ....you will still get killed

some chars are overpowered and still dominate these events to own more overpowered chars .. by nature that will DUMP a lot of players .. its also like if one of my friends got op char , i can use his char to stomp on all and fill my pockets of money .. thats how it works nowadays .
even thu i have a lot of friends , i never liked the way it is.

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i know that people might have paid , gave up lifes ....

but there should be a REAL chance for newbies and casual players to make their way . the game is totally unblanced atm
since perfection came out .. it turned into a disaster

i remember being able to do miracles with a 370 BP vhar before perfection comes out.
then i became totally useless and quitted , lost interest of game.

and even if you welling to bulk
look at current chi ranks ?
soon u gonna need 400 to have a top 50

can u imagine how much ur going to pay to have a char that would roughly satisfy u ?

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ok , skip the anti thing ?

can u survive 45k attackers swipe as full +12 char ?, if u can , can u survive 2 swipes in gw or ctf poles ?? lets say u could ?? lets say also u have over 200 immu , can u stand with a king at almost 230 Strike "or nearly 240 with a monk in team" ?

alright , you gonna say ill go stg , can u take poles on stg ?? ....you will still get killed

some chars are overpowered and still dominate these events to own more overpowered chars .. by nature that will DUMP a lot of players .. its also like if one of my friends got op char , i can use his char to stomp on all and fill my pockets of money .. thats how it works nowadays .
even thu i have a lot of friends , i never liked the way it is.

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i know that people might have paid , gave up lifes ....

but there should be a REAL chance for newbies and casual players to make their way . the game is totally unblanced atm
since perfection came out .. it turned into a disaster

i remember being able to do miracles with a 370 BP vhar before perfection comes out.
then i became totally useless and quitted , lost interest of game.

and even if you welling to bulk
look at current chi ranks ?
soon u gonna need 400 to have a top 50

can u imagine how much ur going to pay to have a char that would roughly satisfy u ?

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I don't expect to have the best char in co, I can still do work in a lot of situations without it. I'm rerolling my chars chi right now aiming 395+ on gates. The only thing I would consider broken, as does everyone is x2. That **** should have been removed long ago, leave it in for pve but that's it. That has nothing to do with BP though. X2 still goes off in skill etc so this is mute argument.
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replace CTF/GW with Clash of Guild event.
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It's not just gw it's all events.

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no king/queen can join the same guild or alliance.


In other words, A king/queen cannot join a guild whose alliance has a king/queen inside of it already.

3 kings = 3 sides.
Would never work, what of the many servers where the same owner owns all 3 kings or are parnters?
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Would never work, what of the many servers where the same owner owns all 3 kings or are parnters?
That's why I said it wouldn't work as well. If they were to do anything like that with donations, what they'd need to do is make it to where no more than 2 kings can ally. If 3 kings ally then the one with the lowest donation is demoted to prince, and the next highest donation that's not in the same alliance is promoted to king/queen. Again, Would be better if they add +1 king spot, and -1 duke spot to make this work more efficiently. 3 sides is dumb and there will always be that one side with some useless pub that doesn't like playing with other people or just doesn't have people so no point in 3 sides, keep it 2.
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Would never work, what of the many servers where the same owner owns all 3 kings or are parnters?
Is this really a question? What do you think would happen lol

3 kings would work in every server except venus. Better?
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Also we find that the member of some top 8 guilds in CTF drop to 1 after the CTF, do you know why is that? Seems like some kind of operation.
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