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Old 04-19-2014, 16:00   #16
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Old 04-19-2014, 20:18   #17
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That's crazy good chi omg ... Two orange p-attack, the dream ...

Can u give us tips if u have some? Like, do u trade dbs for chi in the NPC, buy chi in market, from the mall directly, or not use cp on it at all?
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That's crazy good chi omg ... Two orange p-attack, the dream ...

Can u give us tips if u have some? Like, do u trade dbs for chi in the NPC, buy chi in market, from the mall directly, or not use cp on it at all?
I'll be honest, I don't use cps on chi my method is pretty simple/basic

I will roll my chi for 50 points each (nothing locked) till I get a yellow stat above 95 (starting with dragon) I go through Phoenix, Tiger, Turtle all with the same method.

Then I went back and rolled for another Yellow (any) or purple above 85. This time I'll keep rolling till I get the 3rd stat either purple or green and the 4th stat either green or blue.

After I do all 4 gates with this method I go back and re-roll the lowest two.

2 Orange P-Attacks on this guy was the results.

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Sure you can have thoughts and theories about builds, you can ask people's opinion and you can ask for suggestions and what not. But that's not the same thing he's doing. He's claiming, and trying to convince the OP and others that BT/Immun is actually inferior to CS/Immun. And that is just plain wrong. If he had said it was a viable option, then that's a different thing.

And if he is so sure that his build IS superior, then he should be using it or otherwise he doesn't actually believe it to be superior. In your example, according to an argument devised by chronick himself, a CS/Immun prince would win every time against an immun prince simply because it is possible to get 2-6 pct more critical strike. That's exactly what he has been saying. It's so silly really.
It's like you don't read, CS/IM is superior to BT/IM for PRINCE. I am not a Prince on that character.
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Sure you can have thoughts and theories about builds, you can ask people's opinion and you can ask for suggestions and what not. But that's not the same thing he's doing. He's claiming, and trying to convince the OP and others that BT/Immun is actually inferior to CS/Immun. And that is just plain wrong. If he had said it was a viable option, then that's a different thing.

And if he is so sure that his build IS superior, then he should be using it or otherwise he doesn't actually believe it to be superior. In your example, according to an argument devised by chronick himself, a CS/Immun prince would win every time against an immun prince simply because it is possible to get 2-6 pct more critical strike. That's exactly what he has been saying. It's so silly really.
You're rather upset with the way he was arguing and not what he actually had in mind.

Edit: Would I be taking CO so seriously if I told you to look up what pragmatism means?
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It's like you don't read, CS/IM is superior to BT/IM for PRINCE. I am not a Prince on that character.
The example ahmed mentioned was a prince char so I think my response was more than adequate.

Edit: So you are using CS/immuun on your prince char?

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You're rather upset with the way he was arguing and not what he actually had in mind.

Edit: Would I be taking CO so seriously if I told you to look up what pragmatism means?
Yes his way of arguing is very annoying, especially how he emphasizes everyone else is wrong I don't have a super strong opinion about anything and I open myself always for constructive criticism. Anyway it's not like I care a lot cuz anyone who is decent knows bt/immuun is the way to go for anyone who is not highest bp in his own tier they won't be convinced by silly arguments. Like I said before only noobs need crit to kill lower bps/same bp. It's possible that you are not actually noob but have bad ping but it comes down to the same thing.

I looked it up but I don't get your point. Are you saying that his build is more practical? Maybe it is considering the majority of the CO population is either phili or egyptian with **** ping 900 + but that doesn't make the build superior, something which he claimed.
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Yes his way of arguing is very annoying, especially how he emphasizes everyone else is wrong I don't have a super strong opinion about anything and I open myself always for constructive criticism. Anyway it's not like I care a lot cuz anyone who is decent knows bt/immuun is the way to go for anyone who is not highest bp in his own tier they won't be convinced by silly arguments. Like I said before only noobs need crit to kill lower bps/same bp. It's possible that you are not actually noob but have bad ping but it comes down to the same thing.

I looked it up but I don't get your point. Are you saying that his build is more practical? Maybe it is considering the majority of the CO population is either phili or egyptian with **** ping 900 + but that doesn't make the build superior, something which he claimed.
I had a disagreement with him about builds too. I thought BT/counteraction was more practical. But if he decides one day to switch to BT/anti I wouldn't call him out on it for changing his mind.

I asked you to look it up because in this particular case he decided to deal with the realities of his situation rather than sticking to his theory even if it's worthless at this moment. Maybe it benefits him better even if he doesn't think it's the right choice. He adapted. Maybe I'm reading too much into it when I say that, but all I'm saying is that he's doing what's best for him as everyone else might.
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I said CT is better for a full +12 Prince.

This character is not a Prince.
Why would prince matter maggot?? anti make break unless entirely based on your argument. So, why are you using break? haha
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Why would prince matter maggot?? anti makes break unless entirely based on your argument. So, why are you using break? haha
Fixed your mistake maggot.
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Who said I changed from crit to break? I have more than one character...



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what is this "CT" abbreviated for?

because critical strike is CS.
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Bt/immu can kill kings/lower bps , yes u may not be able to kill a king who u don't 1 hit bt ( one that can pot) , but a melee can so u do have a chance to kill kings even good ones if u urself are a good player

Crit/immu can kill anyone lower bp and u stand 0 chance against kings not even a melee. U might be able to get away with running bt refineries/stage 1 bt vs said king (should be able to hit like 80 bt giving u a 50 pcnt chance to bt). That and being able to kill waters let's face it they are a ***** to kill without some Crit. But then again a good water won't die unless it's to a melee, or a well coordinated hit from 2 ppl.

Take of that what u want, that's just straight fact only reason i wld run Crit as a prince is if i planned to take king soon (re rolling chi is annoying af)
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Bt/immu can kill kings/lower bps , yes u may not be able to kill a king who u don't 1 hit bt ( one that can pot) , but a melee can so u do have a chance to kill kings even good ones if u urself are a good player

Crit/immu can kill anyone lower bp and u stand 0 chance against kings not even a melee. U might be able to get away with running bt refineries/stage 1 bt vs said king (should be able to hit like 80 bt giving u a 50 pcnt chance to bt). That and being able to kill waters let's face it they are a ***** to kill without some Crit. But then again a good water won't die unless it's to a melee, or a well coordinated hit from 2 ppl.

Take of that what u want, that's just straight fact only reason i wld run Crit as a prince is if i planned to take king soon (re rolling chi is annoying af)
Everything you said could be summed up to: would you prefer having the capability to kill everyone, or just being able to kill those of same bp or lower easier.
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