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Hello to all, The question that mostly everyone has is “ Is there an actual socketing trick?” Hopefully I can provide some insight that might shed some light on this question. First of all, Conquer is free to play but lets face it CO needs to make money. That’s the bottom line plain and simple. If you wanna become one of the elite players on Conquer you will need to spend money. Therefore making a socketing trick would be impractical for CO. But yet if all sockets are made at random by luck then how are some players making so many of them in such a short time? Have you ever noticed, that on a new server the first people to have sockets are the players that end up “running the server” ? The players that have such a high level and such great gear that there pretty much untouchable to majority? These are the elite players who have full sockets before anyone else. You rarely see a noob with full sockets that early on a server yet these guys have a main set of full socketed gear plus in most cases a second or third full soc gear for plvling waters? Now yes I do understand that these guys work in teams and work hard. I do understand that they most likely buy dbs and CP points. But even with all that in mind how lucky can u get? Think about it, there are 14 sockets in a full socket gear. For example lets take a Trojan so -4 sockets in weapons. That leaves 10 sockets to make. Now my official count of mets that I have spammed is right around 100k. Yes that many people. 100k mets spamed at tc. And in that time I have been lucky 5 times. Five one soc items. That’s hardly worth the effort. With the money I spent on the mets I could have easily bought more socs than that. But the point is to make these sockets and not buy them from someone that made them. It took me almost 3 years to complete that. I have tried all the tips and so called tricks everywhere on the internet. Ive spent days researching all possible meathods of socketing. To tell you the truth im tired of sleepless night, countless cups of coffe and energy drinks, and terrible tips on how to make sockets. Now yes I know that you can get a socket at random at tc and that some people get lucky and do it in like 10 mets. Congrats you have 1 socket. But compared to the elite players you are still 9 short. There is no doubt in my mind that there is a more effective way of making sockets (excluding the star drill and weapon sockets). This is by far the best kept secret in CO. Of course these elite players will share the secret with them selves but there not gonna share it with the average joe. And I am taking into consideration that all those sockets can be done by random luck. But even the Random Generator that runs the slots in any casino is not random at all. It is run by a sequence. A sequence that is very predictable. Now there is a couple possibilities how these select few players on each server are making all these sockets.

A. These sockets are very closely related to CO and their main purpose is to show the general player what kind of gear you can have. Thus promoting possible purchases of Dbs and CP points to reach that goal. Because lets face it. If you were to make all those sockets without ever buying anything for CO you would hunt and play until you have calluses on your fingers for a very long period of time and still there would be no guarantee that you can make that kind of a gear set.

B. These sockets are a result of mass Db buying. Now although a possibility I seriously doubt that some of these players spend money in the thousands of USD to make these sockets. If someone is throwing that kind of money around that what are they doing at home sitting and playing conquer??

C. The sockets are made as a result of numerous reborn. This also a possibility. You can rb a water within 20 hours nowdays with a good setup. But once again it would still rely on “luck” trying to make these socket. And if these guys are so successful at it than why isn’t anybody else with that much success and efficiency??

D. There is a socketing trick. Probably its not a trick at all. Just a certain moment or a certain sequence where socketing items is higher than at any time. And these players have figured out when this moment is and they are socketing their items during that moment having much better efficiency than an average joe.

E. The last possibility is that im wrong at everything and that these sockets are just simply lucky. I don’t mean to downgrade the work that anybody has put in into making their sockets or to offend anyone. I just refuse to believe that these certain individuals are being so lucky compared to others.

Now I pretty much tested out all the “possible tricks” out there. The kill count, The times, coordinates, classes, lvls, and items. All of them have a possibility to making a socket, but none of them make that socket efficiently. I found that classes and level of character do not come into play. The kill count is very faulty also because people were making sockets long before the kill count was brought into conquer. If there is some sort of time where socketing is more likely I have certainly not found it. I event went as far to open up the official server times, and trying to spam a met at the exact second where 10 minutes hit, half an hour, Hour and so on. If there is a socketing moment on these servers it has to be universal to where all the players knowing it can have an equal chance at it. Therefore different classes are not a factor. Coordinates are my only blind spot. I have not found them to work but I did not put that theory to the test completely. If anybody wants to invest the time please be my guest just fill me in on what you found out. That leaves the time. Ive also come across this “Lazy Code” theory. Supposedly it’s a code that records how many rare items such as sockets are on a given server and based on that number it increases or decreaces the chances of making a socket. I also came across info that this code record is erased at every server maintenance. Thus implying that after server maint is the best time to try for a soc. You would have a short window of time before the server goes back up and the time that people start logging back in. Because once they log back in the Lazy Code would once again record their sockets until next server maint. But weather this lazy code takes a general number of rare items to a server or wether its based on the amount of people logged in at the time is unknown. Long story short I have also tried to socket after server maint and I had little luck doing so. At least not very efficiently. So my question to you is how are these players becoming so much luckier than everybody else? And if they are refering to some kind of trick or tip, what is it?? That is the million dollar question. Maybe with enough time and mets spammed someone is going to stumble right over it. Maybe CO will give us a tip or any kind of insight on the matter. But until then the real socketing way will be the best kept secret in conquer. Once again I don’t mean to offend anybody in anyway and take away for their time put into making legitimate sockets. Please do not flame as there is no clear right or wrong answer. Everything is simply my opinion based on extensive research and countless time mets and money put into the process. If you have anything to add please do im looking forward to what the rest of you have to say.
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Old 01-23-2008, 01:30   #2
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Summarize: there is no trick for socketing, just pure luck. end of story. kthxbye.
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Hello to all, The question that mostly everyone has is “ Is there an actual socketing trick?” Hopefully I can provide some insight that might shed some light on this question. First of all, Conquer is free to play but lets face it CO needs to make money. That’s the bottom line plain and simple. If you wanna become one of the elite players on Conquer you will need to spend money. Therefore making a socketing trick would be impractical for CO. But yet if all sockets are made at random by luck then how are some players making so many of them in such a short time? Have you ever noticed, that on a new server the first people to have sockets are the players that end up “running the server” ? The players that have such a high level and such great gear that there pretty much untouchable to majority? These are the elite players who have full sockets before anyone else. You rarely see a noob with full sockets that early on a server yet these guys have a main set of full socketed gear plus in most cases a second or third full soc gear for plvling waters? Now yes I do understand that these guys work in teams and work hard. I do understand that they most likely buy dbs and CP points. But even with all that in mind how lucky can u get? Think about it, there are 14 sockets in a full socket gear. For example lets take a Trojan so -4 sockets in weapons. That leaves 10 sockets to make. Now my official count of mets that I have spammed is right around 100k. Yes that many people. 100k mets spamed at tc. And in that time I have been lucky 5 times. Five one soc items. That’s hardly worth the effort. With the money I spent on the mets I could have easily bought more socs than that. But the point is to make these sockets and not buy them from someone that made them. It took me almost 3 years to complete that. I have tried all the tips and so called tricks everywhere on the internet. Ive spent days researching all possible meathods of socketing. To tell you the truth im tired of sleepless night, countless cups of coffe and energy drinks, and terrible tips on how to make sockets. Now yes I know that you can get a socket at random at tc and that some people get lucky and do it in like 10 mets. Congrats you have 1 socket. But compared to the elite players you are still 9 short. There is no doubt in my mind that there is a more effective way of making sockets (excluding the star drill and weapon sockets). This is by far the best kept secret in CO. Of course these elite players will share the secret with them selves but there not gonna share it with the average joe. And I am taking into consideration that all those sockets can be done by random luck. But even the Random Generator that runs the slots in any casino is not random at all. It is run by a sequence. A sequence that is very predictable. Now there is a couple possibilities how these select few players on each server are making all these sockets.

A. These sockets are very closely related to CO and their main purpose is to show the general player what kind of gear you can have. Thus promoting possible purchases of Dbs and CP points to reach that goal. Because lets face it. If you were to make all those sockets without ever buying anything for CO you would hunt and play until you have calluses on your fingers for a very long period of time and still there would be no guarantee that you can make that kind of a gear set.

B. These sockets are a result of mass Db buying. Now although a possibility I seriously doubt that some of these players spend money in the thousands of USD to make these sockets. If someone is throwing that kind of money around that what are they doing at home sitting and playing conquer??

C. The sockets are made as a result of numerous reborn. This also a possibility. You can rb a water within 20 hours nowdays with a good setup. But once again it would still rely on “luck” trying to make these socket. And if these guys are so successful at it than why isn’t anybody else with that much success and efficiency??

D. There is a socketing trick. Probably its not a trick at all. Just a certain moment or a certain sequence where socketing items is higher than at any time. And these players have figured out when this moment is and they are socketing their items during that moment having much better efficiency than an average joe.

E. The last possibility is that im wrong at everything and that these sockets are just simply lucky. I don’t mean to downgrade the work that anybody has put in into making their sockets or to offend anyone. I just refuse to believe that these certain individuals are being so lucky compared to others.

Now I pretty much tested out all the “possible tricks” out there. The kill count, The times, coordinates, classes, lvls, and items. All of them have a possibility to making a socket, but none of them make that socket efficiently. I found that classes and level of character do not come into play. The kill count is very faulty also because people were making sockets long before the kill count was brought into conquer. If there is some sort of time where socketing is more likely I have certainly not found it. I event went as far to open up the official server times, and trying to spam a met at the exact second where 10 minutes hit, half an hour, Hour and so on. If there is a socketing moment on these servers it has to be universal to where all the players knowing it can have an equal chance at it. Therefore different classes are not a factor. Coordinates are my only blind spot. I have not found them to work but I did not put that theory to the test completely. If anybody wants to invest the time please be my guest just fill me in on what you found out. That leaves the time. Ive also come across this “Lazy Code” theory. Supposedly it’s a code that records how many rare items such as sockets are on a given server and based on that number it increases or decreaces the chances of making a socket. I also came across info that this code record is erased at every server maintenance. Thus implying that after server maint is the best time to try for a soc. You would have a short window of time before the server goes back up and the time that people start logging back in. Because once they log back in the Lazy Code would once again record their sockets until next server maint. But weather this lazy code takes a general number of rare items to a server or wether its based on the amount of people logged in at the time is unknown. Long story short I have also tried to socket after server maint and I had little luck doing so. At least not very efficiently. So my question to you is how are these players becoming so much luckier than everybody else? And if they are refering to some kind of trick or tip, what is it?? That is the million dollar question. Maybe with enough time and mets spammed someone is going to stumble right over it. Maybe CO will give us a tip or any kind of insight on the matter. But until then the real socketing way will be the best kept secret in conquer. Once again I don’t mean to offend anybody in anyway and take away for their time put into making legitimate sockets. Please do not flame as there is no clear right or wrong answer. Everything is simply my opinion based on extensive research and countless time mets and money put into the process. If you have anything to add please do im looking forward to what the rest of you have to say.

and you actually sat down and wrote all that .. do you not have a life at all ??
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Found alot of ppl near the start of the server are willing to trade there socket items for only a few db's. So anyone that gets up to lvl 70 and can buy some db's get the chance to buy the socket item.

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1. Kill red and black names that drop socketed items.
2. Buy DB's.
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The calculations are random and only quantum physics can determine the drop rate. You can figure it out if you have all player counts and drop counts....
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Wow...you have spent a lot of time on this. That same amount of time spent earning money at minimum wage would probably have bought you enough db to full 2 socket, but...in response:
A. not really relevant, k?
B. some people do...GoneAway on my server (Sagittarius) is one such player...
C. the most likely answer. this is why so many people create high-level archers...these characters can make reborns by plvl, which gives them a supply of 4 db per reborn char (minimum). If they are good and can plvl 4 water taos a week, that's 4 sockets a month (for 1 set). Obviously, some plvlrs take lots longer, but my point is, a level 130 archer ought to be able to make at least 1 full socket set a year(but it's hard work).
D.(and E.) no such thing...just luck, sorry.

If you had sold the 100k mets for cash @ 200k each (which is the current price on *some* servers) that would be 20,000kk, enough for 266 dbs @ 75kk. That would get you a full 1 soc set (not counting armor and weapons), and 3 2nd sockets....you might have done even better than that playing lotto...
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Well...I read it all.

Some thing to consider, and I have discussed with several people is that when a character is created, a random luck factor is assigned to it. This may be constant throughout the characters existence, or luck factors change after each server maintenance.

Its a possibility, as some characters just seem luckier that others.
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There's not really a trick for socketing equipment, although some people say they know what time and what coordinates to stand at to get a socket, but I don't really think its true hehe.
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It's a well known fact among the socket makers that the socketing rate in tc has been changed dramatically by tq since potency came out. This was done looking ahead to when they were going to release the tough drills. It is maybe 10x harder to make a socket in tc now.

I know some guys that were real good at making sockets 6-9 months ago (maybe longer, can't remember how long ago it changed) and swore by the socket times that were posted by Anware (I think thats his name). Most people that didn't believe that there were socket times were people that tried the times 2 or 3 times with 10-15 mets and figured since they didn't get a socket, the times were false.

I do not believe they have taken it out completely but I remember guys that made a lot of sockets said they averaged 1 socket every 150 mets or so. It might average 1 socket every 1000 mets now.
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D.(and E.) no such thing...just luck, sorry.
"This is embrassing i returnd to conquer believe it or not last month in server Basilisk, with the help of the new patch i got my 14 soc tro again( IN 1 DAY) hahaha." Posted by grem.

Well if its all luck how are things like this possible??!!11one
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Luck you say...

Lets say that ..."meteor success rate" for refined item in TC (lvl 70) is 95 %. Failing seems to be impossible, however, i lost three mets few days (upgrading a rvg rvg 2 sock ref bow) .

Lets say that MSR for super 110 lvl wand is around 5 %. But my RL friend used ONE met to upgrade it, while i wasted 100 mets to upgrade my super helmet (97 lv).


I think that chances for upgrading an item (or to get each items in lottery) are fixed for each items level. For example 1 is the lowest, and 1kk is branded as 100% (the max number can obviously be MUCH higher - drop of socketed item from monster or uberrarities in lottery)


And for example: Chance to get a meteor from a monster is about 1/400 (from my experience). In theory, 1 monster shall drop a met, 399 wont. But theory get pwned by... Ta-daam

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"This is embrassing i returnd to conquer believe it or not last month in server Basilisk, with the help of the new patch i got my 14 soc tro again( IN 1 DAY) hahaha." Posted by grem.

Well if its all luck how are things like this possible??!!11one
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