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Old 02-12-2018, 02:08   #1
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TROIAN GOOD (comprension useful) or BUG?? RXIN

i dont understand why penetration was added to the list of weapon skill for troian red rune (since mortal strike deal more damage and have better activation rate and also phoenix do same damage as mortal strike just better activation) now maybe ive understood.

if you choose phoenix or penetration as weapon skill with troian red rune (comprension) it work also with low level dagger and bow (phoenix and penetration hit in distance rage only 2 space around you)

ITS FEATURES OR BUG??


the damage is low because u can use only low level dagger or bow (and u loose all bonus for left hand.
btw it can be good when u sun out of stamina.
it's designed for that??
the water red rune sacrifice have specified that u cant use bow or knife but in that case the damage added is final ph att then will be OP but regarding troian???
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Phoenix never dealt more damage than penetration or mortal strike. It only deals that huge amount of damage to monsters. The damage is fine, but nothing compared to pen or mortal. Only the activation rate makes it so good.
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Phoenix never dealt more damage than penetration or mortal strike. It only deals that huge amount of damage to monsters. The damage is fine, but nothing compared to pen or mortal. Only the activation rate makes it so good.
phoenix deal 150% damage to human (300% monster) 85% activation rate
penetration 240% damage to all 38% activation rate
mortal strike 245% damage to all with 42% activation rate

if u have epic cross sabres penetration is useless
BUT
if u equipe knives or bow and you select penetration in red rune interface u can apply penetration bonus (240%) at knives (38% activation rate)
my troian have 39k attack with sabres and 25k with 1 knives (p3)
i loose 14k attack (and 2SDG and 19 BP and -7 blessing)
that why i ask if is features or bug apply penetration skill bonus to dagger
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phoenix deal 150% damage to human (300% monster) 85% activation rate
penetration 240% damage to all 38% activation rate
mortal strike 245% damage to all with 42% activation rate

if u have epic cross sabres penetration is useless
BUT
if u equipe knives or bow and you select penetration in red rune interface u can apply penetration bonus (240%) at knives (38% activation rate)
my troian have 39k attack with sabres and 25k with 1 knives (p3)
i loose 14k attack (and 2SDG and 19 BP and -7 blessing)
that why i ask if is features or bug apply penetration skill bonus to dagger
whole system is bugged.
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phoenix deal 150% damage to human (300% monster) 85% activation rate
penetration 240% damage to all 38% activation rate
mortal strike 245% damage to all with 42% activation rate

if u have epic cross sabres penetration is useless
BUT
if u equipe knives or bow and you select penetration in red rune interface u can apply penetration bonus (240%) at knives (38% activation rate)
my troian have 39k attack with sabres and 25k with 1 knives (p3)
i loose 14k attack (and 2SDG and 19 BP and -7 blessing)
that why i ask if is features or bug apply penetration skill bonus to dagger
back in old days i have chosen phoenix , and i can tell . even though the damage isn't that high you have a big chance to give double melees with phoenix which will end at ur target dead , also assuming that tro have 2k extra HP than other classes . if ur full sdg u won't need more than 1 phoenix hit to kill .
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Go p7 perm lvl 70 knife and get no mercy rune for 22k damage ( lol - don't think that's possible but man assassins are going to kill everyone once they level up no mercy )
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back in old days i have chosen phoenix , and i can tell . even though the damage isn't that high you have a big chance to give double melees with phoenix which will end at ur target dead , also assuming that tro have 2k extra HP than other classes . if ur full sdg u won't need more than 1 phoenix hit to kill .
activation rate is good but with 1 phoenix u dont kill anyone (its only 150%) even with full sdg u hit around 55-58K against a 398 BP enemy
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Go p7 perm lvl 70 knife and get no mercy rune for 22k damage ( lol - don't think that's possible but man assassins are going to kill everyone once they level up no mercy )
no mercy dont work if your damage is over 22k
is usefull only with
arrow bow
knive single hit (if mortal wound deal 21k the damage with no mercy will be capped to 22k, if the damage is more than 22k no mercy dont work
scatter
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pirate bomb
monk triple full STG (22k+22k+22k) -----dead
WW triple blast
WW cloud (that can be interesting)
scurvy bomb (pure pirate crap build)
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Will it work with archer bow rapid fire?
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Will it work with archer bow rapid fire?
yes but unfortunately rapid fire is counted as 1 attack (then no mercy work once and not for every arrow of visual effect)
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ah too bad rapid fire counts as 1. But so good just scatter all at CTF while in the air as archer lol.

So would it be better to use a bow or knife p7 level 70, on a trojan (lol) on weapon switch ? (what does more damage)

Just a thought : You would need another comprehension rune + a no mercy rune in the minor runes for weapon switch.
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activation rate is good but with 1 phoenix u dont kill anyone (its only 150%) even with full sdg u hit around 55-58K against a 398 BP enemy
the thing is if u know where u jump u can give multiple phoenix , TRO with nix vs WW now already wins
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