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Hello Rapter =)

Any information yet, please? >.<

*EDIT* i really love the new inferno skill.. so nice!
There is really no point of tornado anymore.......... due to fire circle.....

Water is probably going to be the best class out of the two, for those who were fire tao...... just because of the damage received and lets not forget new image of fire

Is there anyone out there who is pure fire tao, did heavens blade get upgrade damage/ hit ratio?
I read that some of the skills affect their ability if you have lotus skill, whats the deal with that?

im still trying to decide what the best build for fire is, in regards to having both epic skills. If anyone can give some advice on that, it would be great.

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There is really no point of tornado anymore.......... due to fire circle.....

Water is probably going to be the best class out of the two, for those who were fire tao...... just because of the damage received and lets not forget new image of fire

Is there anyone out there who is pure fire tao, did heavens blade get upgrade damage/ hit ratio?
I read that some of the skills affect their ability if you have lotus skill, whats the deal with that?

im still trying to decide what the best build for fire is, in regards to having both epic skills. If anyone can give some advice on that, it would be great.
i can confirm that the pure fire skill (heaven blade) NOT buffed then useless pure fire.
now pure water is better for glass cannon cauze new aoe skill (that cost 10 stamina but is istantaneos like mfire circle) and 50k azure
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Hi guys, sorry it took longer then expected, but here are the results

Tests After New Update

Please NOTE I switched servers for the possible chance to become KING soon!!!

Prince Fire / Water Test 8/10/2017 Just4Fun

As the title says, I will be testing Fire / Water over the next 14 days. I will convert my STG fire to full SPG to test attack and also to test to see if fire can play SPG and not get 1 hit. I will finish with my fire switching to Pure Water to test new water skills as full SPG then will put back to STG. All tests will be done with chars the same BP unless stated.

Testing will be done on EU Server: Dark, Prince Fire: 402 (324 Perfection)

Account Name: #Rapter! (30 Bill Prince).

1. Converted to SPG fire with M-ATTACK Dragon Soul Armour and Headgears, Full LVL 6 Refineries, Full Penetration (Even Head Gears), Immunity.

HP: 67030 (I lost a lot of HP though chi rank coming to Dark Server)
DEFENSE: 22405
M-ATTACK: 53674 (I have no M-Attack in Dragon chi, can easy get extra 2k M-Attack)
M-ATTACK 180% (FULL SPG)
BLESSED: 49%
FINAL M-ATTCK: 5400
SKILL CRIT (M-STRIKE): 117.80 (no need for more then 100 due to perfection).
IMMUNITY: 203.90
PENETRATION: 53%

Evil Centurion: 635818 (All Monsters in new map are the same damage I guess there is a limit)
GW Gate: 310136
Tower Bosses: 628258
GW Pole 1814260

This build hits all classes that are the same BP using Immunity between 20-22k per Zap, Anti Brake Between 32-38k per zap depending on build. It is really fun to play, Due to the amount of HP I find I can out pot most hits from same BP players, so its not 1 hit (unless they get lucky). Brake account's cannot kill me 1 hit, most hit me around 36-42k, so I am finding this build very nice for the new map. Kings I am hitting around 6-8k as expected due to there BP advantage. King Micke

Next at GW I switched Headgears to HP just to test the reduction in damage from loosing penetration in headgears.

GW Gate: 302492
GW Pole: 1769940


Next I switched to Defence Souls + HP in Headgears

HP: 70230
DEFENSE: 25105
M-ATTACK: 52374
M-ATTACK 180% (FULL SPG)
BLESSED: 49%
FINAL M-ATTCK: 5400
SKILL CRIT (M-STRIKE): 117.80 (no need for more then 100 due to perfection).
IMMUNITY: 203.90
PENETRATION: 41%

Evil Centurion: 619696 (All Monsters in new map are the same damage regardless of level, odd)
GW Gate: 302442
Tower Bosses: 612948
GW Pole 1424560

The new fire Circle Skill that allows it to be cast while moving is great fun, has a nice range and effect. I really enjoy playing this build with fire circle in new map, it allows me to keep a good amount of attack and means I am not taking too much damage.

2. Converted to SPG Pure Water Tao, Attack tests will be done using new Water Skill (Chant of Purity)

HP: 70230
DEFENSE: 25105
M-ATTACK: 52374
M-ATTACK 180% (FULL SPG)
BLESSED: 49%
FINAL M-ATTCK: 5400
SKILL CRIT (M-STRIKE): 117.80 (no need for more then 100 due to perfection).
IMMUNITY: 203.90
PENETRATION: 41%

Evil Centurion: 616764 (really not much difference from tornado)
GW Gate: 300172 (again not much difference from tornado)
Tower Bosses: 609274

All skills Fixed

Healing Rain is OP fixed healing 8500 in team

Azure Shield fixed -50000 DMG for 60 Seconds (In Description of skill says -12000)

Chant Of Purity Fixed is OP for levelling and hunting and great fun if you need to attack, I can swipe x15 times before stamina runs out. Attacking and rev and shielding can get a bit confusing on where your priority***8217;s should lie. As it uses stamina, its a little hard to do all three.

Testing on accounts that I was hitting between 17-22k before I am now hitting with Chant Of Purity around 15-20k, with Azure shield I can hold of attacks, but can still be killed from top players, so 8x STG is next to be tested. I will put the STG 1 at a time to test the effects.

All tests we be done on GW gate as I don't have time to test all

1x STG: 271594 / 2x STG: 257056 / 3x STG: 242516 / 4x STG: 227976
5x STG: 213436 / 6x STG: 198896 / 7x STG: 184356 / 8x STG: 169816

Evil Centurion: 344694 (I am happy that these are still 1 hit for hunting)

Keeping penetration in BAG and Bracelet is Key to killing enemy's, I could put anti in bag or detox but due to my perfection level its not really needed.

THE END (I hope this Helps people understand my build).

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that's prolly Raptor. lol. He's been full spg fire before in Dark i believe.
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Chant Of Purity Fixed is OP for levelling and hunting and great fun if you need to attack,
what's chant of purity?

edit: nevermind, didnt know there was a new skill u had to go learn in jobcenter
(havent actually played water in a while besides sitting in market )
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THE END (I hope this Helps people understand my build)
Hello Rapter =)

Thank you for the information... But what tao path you gonna pick plz? You gonna stay water or go back to fire? And what is your damage on characters who have the same perfection as you, plz?

hmm I don't understand something too.. in your first post, before the patch that added attack and defense, you said your m attack was 48600, at 324 perfection, now, you should have an added 8080 more m attack, so now your attack should be 56660.. Did you change something in your chi and jiang since first post, plz? .O

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They should just remove fire from the character creation screen since they're so useless.
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Hi guys, sorry it took longer then expected, but here are the results

Tests After New Update

Please NOTE I switched servers for the possible chance to become KING soon!!!

Prince Fire / Water Test 8/10/2017 Just4Fun

As the title says, I will be testing Fire / Water over the next 14 days. I will convert my STG fire to full SPG to test attack and also to test to see if fire can play SPG and not get 1 hit. I will finish with my fire switching to Pure Water to test new water skills as full SPG then will put back to STG. All tests will be done with chars the same BP unless stated.

Testing will be done on EU Server: Dark, Prince Fire: 402 (324 Perfection)

Account Name: #Rapter! (30 Bill Prince).

1. Converted to SPG fire with M-ATTACK Dragon Soul Armour and Headgears, Full LVL 6 Refineries, Full Penetration (Even Head Gears), Immunity.

HP: 67030 (I lost a lot of HP though chi rank coming to Dark Server)
DEFENSE: 22405
M-ATTACK: 53674 (I have no M-Attack in Dragon chi, can easy get extra 2k M-Attack)
M-ATTACK 180% (FULL SPG)
BLESSED: 49%
FINAL M-ATTCK: 5400
SKILL CRIT (M-STRIKE): 117.80 (no need for more then 100 due to perfection).
IMMUNITY: 203.90
PENETRATION: 53%

Evil Centurion: 635818 (All Monsters in new map are the same damage I guess there is a limit)
GW Gate: 310136
Tower Bosses: 628258
GW Pole 1814260

This build hits all classes that are the same BP using Immunity between 20-22k per Zap, Anti Brake Between 32-38k per zap depending on build. It is really fun to play, Due to the amount of HP I find I can out pot most hits from same BP players, so its not 1 hit (unless they get lucky). Brake account's cannot kill me 1 hit, most hit me around 36-42k, so I am finding this build very nice for the new map. Kings I am hitting around 6-8k as expected due to there BP advantage. King Micke

Next at GW I switched Headgears to HP just to test the reduction in damage from loosing penetration in headgears.

GW Gate: 302492
GW Pole: 1769940


Next I switched to Defence Souls + HP in Headgears

HP: 70230
DEFENSE: 25105
M-ATTACK: 52374
M-ATTACK 180% (FULL SPG)
BLESSED: 49%
FINAL M-ATTCK: 5400
SKILL CRIT (M-STRIKE): 117.80 (no need for more then 100 due to perfection).
IMMUNITY: 203.90
PENETRATION: 41%

Evil Centurion: 619696 (All Monsters in new map are the same damage regardless of level, odd)
GW Gate: 302442
Tower Bosses: 612948
GW Pole 1424560

The new fire Circle Skill that allows it to be cast while moving is great fun, has a nice range and effect. I really enjoy playing this build with fire circle in new map, it allows me to keep a good amount of attack and means I am not taking too much damage.

2. Converted to SPG Pure Water Tao, Attack tests will be done using new Water Skill (Chant of Purity)

HP: 70230
DEFENSE: 25105
M-ATTACK: 52374
M-ATTACK 180% (FULL SPG)
BLESSED: 49%
FINAL M-ATTCK: 5400
SKILL CRIT (M-STRIKE): 117.80 (no need for more then 100 due to perfection).
IMMUNITY: 203.90
PENETRATION: 41%

Evil Centurion: 616764 (really not much difference from tornado)
GW Gate: 300172 (again not much difference from tornado)
Tower Bosses: 609274

All skills Fixed

Healing Rain is OP fixed healing 8500 in team

Azure Shield fixed -50000 DMG for 60 Seconds (In Description of skill says -12000)

Chant Of Purity Fixed is OP for levelling and hunting and great fun if you need to attack, I can swipe x15 times before stamina runs out. Attacking and rev and shielding can get a bit confusing on where your priority***8217;s should lie. As it uses stamina, its a little hard to do all three.

Testing on accounts that I was hitting between 17-22k before I am now hitting with Chant Of Purity around 15-20k, with Azure shield I can hold of attacks, but can still be killed from top players, so 8x STG is next to be tested. I will put the STG 1 at a time to test the effects.

All tests we be done on GW gate as I don't have time to test all

1x STG: 271594 / 2x STG: 257056 / 3x STG: 242516 / 4x STG: 227976
5x STG: 213436 / 6x STG: 198896 / 7x STG: 184356 / 8x STG: 169816

Evil Centurion: 344694 (I am happy that these are still 1 hit for hunting)

Keeping penetration in BAG and Bracelet is Key to killing enemy's, I could put anti in bag or detox but due to my perfection level its not really needed.

THE END (I hope this Helps people understand my build).

All trolls Please click the link below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoH8UEEu4QM
Interesting build, props for all the work.
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Hello Rapter =)

Thank you for the information... But what tao path you gonna pick plz? You gonna stay water or go back to fire? And what is your damage on characters who have the same perfection as you, plz?

hmm I don't understand something too.. in your first post, before the patch that added attack and defense, you said your m attack was 48600, at 324 perfection, now, you should have an added 8080 more m attack, so now your attack should be 56660.. Did you change something in your chi and jiang since first post, plz? .O

Thank you ^_^
Hey BeLLaDonna

My M-Attack before new patch was about 48600 (Full perfection gave 3500)
My M-Attack After new Patch was about 53600 (Full Perfection now giving 8080)

So i gained an extra 4580 M-Attack (8080 - 3500= 4580) so it works out, not sure where you where getting an extra 8080 from.

I will stay water for now. TQ is bringing out a new water skill soon. Also with the new patch mid November , i can create a 2nd chi and JH and switch between Fire and Water.

I am thinking to try Fire-Warrior-Water as i was hoping this will keep Fire Circle witch is much better for Hunting in the new map. The new water skill using Stamina is a pain, i need to keep sitting ., but i would loose shield from pure water, witch i think i could live with.

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Hey BeLLaDonna

My M-Attack before new patch was about 48600 (Full perfection gave 3500)
My M-Attack After new Patch was about 53600 (Full Perfection now giving 8080)

So i gained an extra 4580 M-Attack (8080 - 3500= 4580) so it works out, not sure where you where getting an extra 8080 from.

I will stay water for now. TQ is bringing out a new water skill soon. Also with the new patch mid November , i can create a 2nd chi and JH and switch between Fire and Water.

I am thinking to try Fire-Warrior-Water as i was hoping this will keep Fire Circle witch is much better for Hunting in the new map. The new water skill using Stamina is a pain, i need to keep sitting ., but i would loose shield from pure water, witch i think i could live with.
fire warrior water dont keep fire circle
warrior fire water keep fire circle but no reflect (but u have xp shield)
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Hey BeLLaDonna

My M-Attack before new patch was about 48600 (Full perfection gave 3500)
My M-Attack After new Patch was about 53600 (Full Perfection now giving 8080)

So i gained an extra 4580 M-Attack (8080 - 3500= 4580) so it works out, not sure where you where getting an extra 8080 from.

I will stay water for now. TQ is bringing out a new water skill soon. Also with the new patch mid November , i can create a 2nd chi and JH and switch between Fire and Water.

I am thinking to try Fire-Warrior-Water as i was hoping this will keep Fire Circle witch is much better for Hunting in the new map. The new water skill using Stamina is a pain, i need to keep sitting ., but i would loose shield from pure water, witch i think i could live with.
Hello Rapter =)

From that page http://co.99.com/news/2017-10-18/new...evealed_.shtml but I thought it was all additional stats.. I understand now ^_^
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so would you recommend the p def souls or the m attack souls. also HP or penetration headgear refinery u think is better?
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fire warrior water dont keep fire circle
warrior fire water keep fire circle but no reflect (but u have xp shield)
Thanks i was not sure about it, i thought it might as when i was fire-water-water i still had it. thanks for the info.

To be honest i am already sick of playing water, i cannot hunt in the new map using the new water skill, having to sit after every x15 swipes to regain stamina is a big pain in the butt, Fire Circle is much better and faster for hunting.
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I still like FireTao damage wise, in solo lower brackets as water I wouldnt do as good as I usually do... Thunder/Fire is slower/weaker than Tornado and the new water skill is based on stamina, a few casts and then what?

My 99 fire can pretty much 1vs1 win every match by points even if I'm lower BP
Jiang is 5stages of Mattack, 2stages HP, 2stages Mstrike.... I rolled like 2 breaks in chi as a precaution for the big guys who try, otherwise chi is Mattack, Mstrike, HP, Immunity
Im also using the Defense stat souls instead of the mattack souls

NOW.... If its your main account and your lvl140 I think being water is 100 times better, everyone is going to want you for their team, guild, ect... Theres NEVER enough waters right?
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UPDATE 04/12/2017

Now being King Water on Dark server please find my SS of my stats below. I have been able to test zap on Kings Wind Walker / Ninja / Dragon Warrior

Now with BP gaps removed and using 8x STG in my gears. I Zap any class (all classes are same) 10k per zap and 18k perfection crit

These same classes hit me under 30k and 58k Crit so cannot die

Hope this helps.... I will continue my work and look forward to testing the new water skill
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