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Old 10-19-2011, 05:54   #16
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Hmm in team archers are very useful to stop people geting stamina with scatter but if you are trying to pk people with bow then you suck not archer.
Archer can pzap with blade while flying, archer can zap and melee with 2h when flying and only monks/ninjas can make em come down.
Dont say archer has low hp cause every class has low hp with noop setup atripute points.
U all noobs,archer are for made money,pvl waterfarm,metzone,make quest for ur main all strong characters ( not bulkers) have near them a archer !
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:04   #17
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U all noobs,archer are for made money,pvl waterfarm,metzone,make quest for ur main all strong characters ( not bulkers) have near them a archer !
This is not the point the point is that at one point archers were decent for PVP and now after updates and new classes archers have been thrown by the wayside. There is no reason that i should have to change my class to enjoy the game. The classes need to be re-balanced.

But instead TQ has to make their new classes OP so that people will realize that the old classes are now out of date and the bulkers will jump on the bandwagon of the new class because they are so OP and cant handle loosing.
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This is not the point the point is that at one point archers were decent for PVP and now after updates and new classes archers have been thrown by the wayside. There is no reason that i should have to change my class to enjoy the game. The classes need to be re-balanced.

But instead TQ has to make their new classes OP so that people will realize that the old classes are now out of date and the bulkers will jump on the bandwagon of the new class because they are so OP and cant handle loosing.
Yeah,agreed with u but,budd u know archer is create for made cps,money (ETC) , but yah ,we know in us server bulkers sucks
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Yeah,agreed with u but,budd u know archer is create for made cps,money (ETC) , but yah ,we know in us server bulkers sucks
Archers arent used for making money, or CPs now since they took away 110 DB from waters. Most things dont cost silvers anymore and Plvl'ing is a joke because of so many Exp Quests like Bound Equip Quests, Flame Lit, and Arena's
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Well in what other way would you want archer upgraded. If they deal massive damage, then they shouldnt be able to fly in exchange. Would be too OP.
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Well in what other way would you want archer upgraded. If they deal massive damage, then they shouldnt be able to fly in exchange. Would be too OP.
Every new class can already land or hit archers while flying.

Fire's don't need any kind of attribute points to hold anything so they have tons of hp, while archers just to fit in have to use there hp to get more strength.

I would never be able to kill any decent character on my server without my spear, but with it, most trojans with over 260 bp can get lucky with critical herc and 1 hit me.

Monks, quite the supporting class

Ninjas, tfb requires no skill with massive attacks

Wars got there shield and 2 hander

Tros got there herc buff

Waters got azure shield

There's a reason no one plays archer anymore
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Its the scatter that is the problem with archers.

Even if you only increased the other skills attack and not scatter, or made a new attack skill, you would still have scatter to switch between which would make them too freakin much against classes that rely on stamina.

I think it would be better to nerf some of the other classes skills against archers, like Ck and monks wwk when flying.

Archers is the easiest class to attack with while jumping away from incoming shots. Against tros you just fly, and against ninjas\monks\taos u just jump.

Theyre also the only class with an easy to use double and constant attack skill, which would be shoot with left click and scatter with right click.
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Its the scatter that is the problem with archers.

Even if you only increased the other skills attack and not scatter, or made a new attack skill, you would still have scatter to switch between which would make them too freakin much against classes that rely on stamina.
and archer uses stamina to fly too, so you stay alive for 60 seconds longer...lol

I think it would be better to nerf some of the other classes skills against archers, like Ck and monks wwk when flying.
not bad

Archers is the easiest class to attack with while jumping away from incoming shots. Against tros you just fly, and against ninjas\monks\taos u just jump.
jumping away and scattering for 500's, dodging hercs that do 30k

Theyre also the only class with an easy to use double and constant attack skill, which would be shoot with left click and scatter with right click.
any melee class has this too, especially monks, have you ever attacked a boss or pole with fb/ss while right next to it to get extra attacks? I know I have
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They only need fly against Tro`s and warriors...scatter, which is the attack skill Im talking about, which autohits with a single right click and keeps players from regaining stamina, dont.


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Yes, this is the downside of the archer; you have to survive their 5 chances of attack, after this you do the scatter\shoot combo so that they dont get any more stamina...but when you do this you can drain a big amount of hp in a short time as soon as they dont have any more stamina left seeing as you dont have to be dodging much.

You do know archer is the easiest class to use for hunting players that try to escape right? U know, with ur autoshooting skills...

On the positive side, they can absolutely rape masses of the people who has an inferior tower vs their fan. They are pro against pure waters and they are goddam gods to hunt with.

Not to mention that your class`sss biggest pro is that you can stamina rape and pot rape constantly with a right click and no aim.


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Seriously man, do I really have to explain what the bigass difference is between the archers double attack and that of any of the melee classes?
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Its the scatter that is the problem with archers.
easy solution to this!! Make scatter like ninjas Fatal strike where you cant attack people with scatter, I'd be fine with that. (I know you can melee in Fatal strike, but you cant click and port to a person and attack)

To fix the problems with archer would be simple increase Their defense (make on par with other classes), make Agility points give HP like strength (To even out HP differences), and the biggest complaint of low dmg done is easy to change as well Decrease dodge from boots.


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Well in what other way would you want archer upgraded. If they deal massive damage, then they shouldnt be able to fly in exchange. Would be too OP.
if you take away fly you have to give 1 hit kill ability like all other grounded classes otherwise archers completely useless and at least more Defense as it stands fly is only defense archer has from tro or war (unless they zap)
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