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Old 12-19-2011, 02:39   #16
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its quite simple really, farmers make an initial investment of what? 60$ give or take? they make that back in a week of farming warriors if theyre bad, if theyre good they can make it back in 2 days, if they have a slew of bots which they probably do they can make an infinite amount of money in no time, thats ludicrous, but hell, if you guys cant do it yourself you have to look to TQ and be handed free stuff instead of working for it yourself. back in my day every1 had an alt archer to met hunt, now its just buy dbs and bot your way to riches and glory.
Having a permed ds on your lower-level gear doesn't mean you're botting and/or selling dbs outside the game. I also very much doubt that "a slew of bots" would all be equipped with gear which has permanent dragon souls. The mass bots I see don't have dragon souls.

I have permed dragon souls on some moderately low-level gear. The main reason for doing it was so that most people let me play the game without trying to pick fights. That's why the first ones I did - and the best one I did - were on armour. Those who level manually without bots (like me) sometimes get fed up with losing hard-earned exp through repeatedly being PKed.

Being able to do that is a game setting and it would be unreasonable to have that changed now so that a phase 6 soul which costs 20 permanent stones to make permanent is only as good as a martial soul which costs one.
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Old 12-19-2011, 05:46   #17
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It is the intention of the project managers not the programmers. Please, don't blame TQ's selfish actions on the programmers. They simply do what they're told, they don't really have any say in the matter.

Secondly, when the Dragon Soul system was first released, you could put a temporary dragon soul on a normal 120 wand (for instance) and down-grade it and still have the attributes. A patch came out later modifying this so that this only worked if the dragon soul was permanent.

Therefore, yes, it's intended.
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It's to the point that these level 15's can PK a decently equipped level 134
I KNOW that's not the intention of the programmers.. (then, again, I could be wrong.. buy more DB to defend yourself)
Hmmm... If the 134 is 'decently' equipped, then it would be hard to believe that it can get pked by a 15... Video or screenshot?
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I don't know if they can make so many DB scrolls but for sure they're able to make 15-120 of THIRD CLASS in few hours. Lvl 15 Dragon-souled Warrior with SM in FG2 can make lvl 120 in 2,5 hour if he is skilled in keeping SM constant.
LOL WTF? 2.5 hours? That is not a farmer lol.
With my rainbow gears, it takes (with exp pots) about an hour to go 120-110 in fg3.
Botters do this in half the time or less. I see ninja botters zipping around for like 15 to 20 mins, then they disappear (go to market to rb), they re-appear and are gone after about 5 to 10 more minutes of botting (to get the 110 db promo).

I could spend all day doing videos, but I'd rather be getting my free dbs to level my gears and try to keep up with the game.
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Old 12-23-2011, 16:47   #20
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I wonder how long it will take TQ to realize the money they are losing because of the farmers with the permed lvl 15 gears, and patch it to remove stats (remember the db for non-rb 110 being removed?) If they are making enough off the intial "investment", they may let it go for a while but I do predict shops filled with permed wands in the future though. Any "feature" that allows players to earn large amounts of money/cps from in game work won't stay a feature for forever.
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Hi another question if I reincarnate a lvl 15 armor with p6 soul not yet perm, can I still perm it later on at lvl 15? Or do I have to lvl it to 130 again to perm it.. Thanks..
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Hi another question if I reincarnate a lvl 15 armor with p6 soul not yet perm, can I still perm it later on at lvl 15? Or do I have to lvl it to 130 again to perm it.. Thanks..
Yes, you can. As long as the time doesn't expire you can perm at any level
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Yes, you can. As long as the time doesn't expire you can perm at any level
Thanks finally someone knows the answer.. At least I can reincarnate now..
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