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Old 04-03-2014, 16:24   #1
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Tao Build and Questions

I'm just wondering about some builds about taos and taos in general with some questions about damage.

What are the other tao builds besides a STG fire tao and water tao?

Why doesn't anyone use SPGs anymore? Is it just because of the survivability aspect?

Whats the maximum amount of m attack one can get with perfect everything? Also whats the highest m attack right now?

I played during a time where both fire taos and water taos heavily relied on the Super Phoenix gem about 03-05 and if you didn't have spgs you were doing it wrong, this was before when the STG came out, And I do remember when they first came out.

I myself will most likely use SPGs because I believe fires should be a all out attack force like they were made to be back in the day. I don't mind dying a lot and I find it more fun to be a magical damage dealer than a physical type damage dealer if I wanted to be a melee class I would of been. Plus I do SPGs because I myself believe its fun.

What should my Chi and Jiang look like?

What is about average for a fire tao now a days? Before it was super +4 with 3 sockets the 2 in the backsword and the 1 in the robe from the promotion.

Right now I have 22k M attack with full 1 socket with one 2 socket brace and Backsword. I have Elite +5 1 sock Cap, Bag, Gown. And 1 sock super +6 boots. +6 Crop, Fan and Tower with super gems 2 sock. 45% Pen, I'll have to wait until I get back to 135 to see the rest of my stats.

Focusing on: Immunity, M-Strike, Max Hp, M-Attack for chi.

Jiang: Stages 1,3,4,7,8 are all M-Attack, 5,9 are Max HP, The rest aren't finished yet

Why or why not shouldn't a magical based tao use or not use Break?

Also does anyone have the damage formula for magic damage if its different from physical damage? I want to see how much SPGs really add on to the attack and how it does it. Reason why I ask is because There's a fire on my server who has 25k M-Attack and does less damage than I do on monsters in the sea of death when I had 20k M-Attack, with 105% SPG M-Attack.
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Old 04-03-2014, 16:41   #2
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spg fire taos turned into assassins. either stay tao and go stg ...or go to assassin(because they both right click).
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Old 04-03-2014, 18:04   #3
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Well if your not gonna go stgs your prob gonna die 1 hit, whether it be by crit or not so imo the immunity is useless.

In chi if i was all out dmg i would go: m attack, m strike, +final m attack, max hp.

In jiang you can do two things.

1.) stage 5 and 9 hp, 2 and 6 m strike, rest m attack
OR if you wanna be super glass cannon go
2.) stage 1,3,4,7,8 m attack 2,5,6,9 m strike. you'll die fast but if want to deal a ton of dmg thats prob the best way. Or you can skip m strike and just go all out m attack/+final m attack. w.e floats your boat.

Point being if your not going stgs defensive stats are pretty much useless, only reason i put some HP in chi is cause there is no better alternative.

Hope this helps
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Also break isnt that big of a deal with fire's because even though their damage gets reduced by BP it isnt like with melee classes. For example if i dont bt someone i hit like 9k when i bt i hit around 36-38k,

If you were a fire you might get an extra 2k but its not really worth using break and giving up pene/crit or w.e you have to sacrifice. You do more when you focus on other aspects.

STG'S are used because of the outrageous dmg people do on tao's w/o stgs. So yes for survivablity.

Perfect m attack with 9 stages of Jiang is 61,661.

Average gear for any class is full two soc, at least +6 and all blessed gear. that would be the minumum, if your a fire +12 bs is necessary imo.

I dont know about damage calculators, all of them are outdated that i know of. CO damage is so rediculous now its hard to keep up with calculating it.
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spg fire taos turned into assassins. either stay tao and go stg ...or go to assassin(because they both right click).
Assassin is way better than non-stg fire, since at least they have a **** ton of hp from knives to stay alive easier.
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Just wondering whats the average m attack now?
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Just wondering whats the average m attack now?
Depends on your gear, the good fires have over 30k m attack.

Guess more average would be in the 20k's, also a lot of people use +final m attack because its better when you don't have SPG's to scale your m attack with so its hard to have an average.
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How hard do you think it would be to get 30k or over for m attack? I want to get good m attack lol
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How hard do you think it would be to get 30k or over for m attack? I want to get good m attack lol
Depends on your gear
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Depends on your gear
Wrong, depends on jian and chi as well.
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Try doing STG and using this build, I know you said you want to use SPG but you won't last versus a STG build, Pirate, Assassin, Monk, Trojan, even Warrior.

If you do all chi at least rare purple stats

Chi:
Max HP
M-Attack
Immunity
final p-dmg

That's about 8,800 M-Attack already. The Immunity stops CT against you, and the final p-dmg IMO is better than M-Strike (most people use immunity) and better than Anti-Break (with STG full -7 no one can one hit you anyway save a triple). The final p-dmg works like your Tower and takes away from the final damage you are dealt.

With Jiang like this

Stage 1: M-Attack
Stage 2: Immunity
Stage 3: M-Attack
Stage 4: M-Attack
Stage 5: Max HP
Stage 6: Immunity
Stage 7: M-Attack
Stage 8: M-Attack
Stage 9: Max HP

With Grade 13, again at least all purple

You gain 10,800 M-Attack

No gear your M-Attack is 19,600.

Now assuming all your gear is +12 Ph6
Bracelet: +2,303
Robe: +886
Backsword: +6,443
Bag: +414
Cap: +785

M-Attack (without even 1 epic or ultra stat in Jiang) 30,431

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30,431 without SPG
Don't use SPG.
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People who suggest not to use SPG, haven't seen a SPG Fire tao in action I believe.
Well, I will keep that info to myself.

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I would like to say, if you actually succeed in a SPG +12 Fire.
Just imagine everything dieing left and right to you.
But still, it not going to kill King or fellow full +12.
But anything below your BP, is under your mercy.
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Why do people play fire?????
Because it is easy to play ?
Gear is cheap ?
Great range and all you need to do is pots ?
Easy to rack point in event ?
Noob killer that doesn't require stamina ?

Idk, what other reason you still seek beside of the obvious...
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Why do people play fire?????
Ask assasssin who he is out of stamina.
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