View Poll Results: 1 BP = 10% DMG reduce. If lowered what should the % be?
1 BP reduces damage by 1% 23 45.10%
1 BP reduces damage by 2% 2 3.92%
1 BP reduces damage by 3% 4 7.84%
1 BP reduces damage by 4% 1 1.96%
1 BP reduces damage by 5% 13 25.49%
1 BP reduces damage by 6% 1 1.96%
1 BP reduces damage by 7% 0 0%
1 BP reduces damage by 8% 0 0%
1 BP reduces damage by 9% 0 0%
1 BP reduces damage by 10% (stay the same) 7 13.73%
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Old 02-23-2011, 01:23   #16
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most of you vote "remove it" without knowing the consequences. oh the giggles.

A small correction, right now it is 15% per lvl ending in 75% total at 5 bp (73.22% to be exact). A lowering to 40% as >5bp would be more fair indeed, but removing it completely... 1 hour after the patch you'll complain you are taking insane damage from random people. Trust me, I know. Classic conquer player 'ere
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5% all the way.

keeps weaker ppl happy
keeps higher people happy (if not then fhking mad-up a little)

and doesnt mean every one with deacent gear 1-hits everyone else lol. some ppl dont have a clue what it would be like without BP nowadays with peoples gear lol
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There is an Official one posted by Bolts and even though its supposed to be recommended mods wont do it.
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most of you vote "remove it" without knowing the consequences. oh the giggles.

A small correction, right now it is 15% per lvl ending in 75% total at 5 bp (73.22% to be exact). A lowering to 40% as >5bp would be more fair indeed, but removing it completely... 1 hour after the patch you'll complain you are taking insane damage from random people. Trust me, I know. Classic conquer player 'ere
The current rule is: 70/60/50/40/30 (pct damage reduction) I.E. 5 or more BP diff//4 BP Diff/3 BP Diff/2 BP Diff/1 BP Diff.

Did you play in 1.0. If you did that in general was about as fair as it got.

BP should be removed completely PERIOD

If people want to bring back skill into the game then there is no need for BP.

I also am a +12 and have always said BP is a joke. A way for TQ to make money which they have and it has also ruined the gameplay and made this game almost completely a skillless joke to say the least. You could nerf BP yet why even do that just remove it and make it simple. Make a few tweeks in the damage issues and be done with it. Make BP count for something outside the PVP part of the game.

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:P just get rid of th sth i only fight people with higher bp than me n e ways... and ones same bp cannot 1 hit me soooooo yeah
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I completely and utterly hate BP so I voted for 1% only.. If it would be different from now like 1BP = 1% and no cap (meaning if you have 100 more then it's 0 dmg) it would really make things more fair. Sure, people with 100BP lower than you won't stand a chance but come on, if your that far down in BP you won't be killing anyone anyway..
No. Capped at 30 pct, everything else the same.







Gear differences aren't supposed to effect damage anyway, its like TQ put a tax bracket in the game for people who bought gear (a stupid system for people that don't get math).




Fix the damage calculators and remove BP entirely. Make it so defense is more effective and then bp isn't needed.




Or just reduce BP to 1 pct reduction per point up to 30 percent max.
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No. Capped at 30 pct, everything else the same.







Gear differences aren't supposed to effect damage anyway, its like TQ put a tax bracket in the game for people who bought gear (a stupid system for people that don't get math).




Fix the damage calculators and remove BP entirely. Make it so defense is more effective and then bp isn't needed.




Or just reduce BP to 1 pct reduction per point up to 30 percent max.
Good suggestion. If you think about it, people with higher BP will most likely have more def/damage anyway....so why penalize the poor noob further by making it nearly impossible for them to hurt the bulkers?

If anything, someone with more than 10-20 bp diff should get a little boost(not holding my breath here).
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Good suggestion. If you think about it, people with higher BP will most likely have more def/damage anyway....so why penalize the poor noob further by making it nearly impossible for them to hurt the bulkers?

If anything, someone with more than 10-20 bp diff should get a little boost(not holding my breath here).


Yea, but then thats like welfare, which is also dumb lol.







Its like you said, higher bp players should have more defense/gear to protect them anyway, just fixing damage calculators and removing BP would be fine. As it is, they have BP in place to make up for an unbalanced damage system (where attack power vastly overwhelms defense power for every class, hence everyone 1 hitting each other in classic).





If they fix defense they don't need BP, if they keep BP, reduce it to 1 pct per 1 BP capped at 30, so within 30 bp is a fair match but if you have a big gear difference the better geared person does have an advantage of some kind.
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Then boots would have no use since archers do **** damage anyways duh.
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Then boots would have no use since archers do **** damage anyways duh.
How does this relate?









P.S. Boots already have no use, talismans control archer pvp now days. The archer needs much help.
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How does this relate?









P.S. Boots already have no use, talismans control archer pvp now days. The archer needs much help.
Boots do matter, get lvl 10 boots and we'll see how much a full +12 archer will shoot you for. But if you up that to 129, meh, they all tickle.

And it relates to that boots will be completly useless since they wont give BP which is their only job right now considering that you have 129 boots.
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If you don't like BP damage reduction simply play a classic server, since its basically normal Co without BP damage reductionanyway. The other changes can be pretty much ignored nowadays.
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If you don't like BP damage reduction simply play a classic server, since its basically normal Co without BP damage reductionanyway. The other changes can be pretty much ignored nowadays.
Give me a char in there equilevant of my char in my current 2.0 server and make my friends move there, then sure I will.
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