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Old 01-31-2011, 23:00   #1
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Does Warrior w/ 2hander have more attack than Ninja?

I have a level 138 Ninja using Katanas which has 15265-19034 attack. (click my siggy)
What does a 138 Warrior with a spear or wand have?

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Old 01-31-2011, 23:05   #2
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I have a level 138 Ninja using Katanas which has 15265-19034 attack. (click my siggy)
What does a 138 Warrior with a spear or wand have?
Less than that. Wands and spears are actually pretty weak, just speed gun makes it hit really hard....
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I have a level 138 Ninja using Katanas which has 15265-19034 attack. (click my siggy)
What does a 138 Warrior with a spear or wand have?
im not sure of that attack, but with sdgs i have 32-36k with +12 spear lvl 137 and +8 attack ring lvl 126 .. full 2sdg
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Old 02-01-2011, 02:16   #4
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I have a level 138 Ninja using Katanas which has 15265-19034 attack. (click my siggy)
What does a 138 Warrior with a spear or wand have?
Warrior with a wand or spear has no where near those damages, not even full +12. Btw, rather than saying the damage you see in your equipment tab, tell the damage you have in details in the 1st tab.
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katanas are high damage end weapons. They'll have less minimum attack then 2h's but more max. It also depends which two hander you use. Poleaxe is high max, low min too.

what fuu said would be mainly correct however do not forget 2h weapons gems count double unless a shield is equipped (pure war). since 2h's mainly use melee hits, they get the full 2 soc sdg bonus at their pinnacle, which is about +30% raw damage. All in all, it evens out and afaik speedgun does way more then tfb. it's just not used cuz you can barely hit with it. it'll be more used soon enough.
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katanas are high damage end weapons. They'll have less minimum attack then 2h's but more max. It also depends which two hander you use. Poleaxe is high max, low min too.

what fuu said would be mainly correct however do not forget 2h weapons gems count double unless a shield is equipped (pure war). since 2h's mainly use melee hits, they get the full 2 soc sdg bonus at their pinnacle, which is about +30% raw damage. All in all, it evens out and afaik speedgun does way more then tfb. it's just not used cuz you can barely hit with it. it'll be more used soon enough.
I beg to differ in that. Atleast for me, my wand doesn't count it's dragon gems twice. I have 150% with my wand on and 180% when I switch to blade+shield. BP is counted 2x but not gems multiplier.
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odd. I always thought two handers got their gems doubled. how did I get 210% spg's with bs then x.X

afaik if that's true then its a bug.
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odd. I always thought two handers got their gems doubled. how did I get 210% spg's with bs then x.X

afaik if that's true then its a bug.
Only BP counts double. So people with 2 handers, archers and taos can have 2 gems less than max gems others can have. I have no idea how you got that
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I have a level 138 Ninja using Katanas which has 15265-19034 attack. (click my siggy)
What does a 138 Warrior with a spear or wand have?
130 +12 spear with P6 wand DS
127 dexring with P3 DS
+shield
full 2soc = 40k max attack
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Only BP counts double. So people with 2 handers, archers and taos can have 2 gems less than max gems others can have. I have no idea how you got that
Correct or thats how it used to be yet a Pure warrior will get the gem count when using a shield. Only way to get the gem count I think is 2h + shield.

I also forgot to look yet the 2h Dragon Souls adds about 1200 (3000) more damage then the current phase 6 1h'r (1800). That helps the 2h catch up a bit since the damage of the second 1h in the left hand is only counted as 1/2 to amount. So for those wondering about 2h and the new skills coming out they are going to shine more in general on a pure warrior that has the shield and 2h due to the gem count from the shield, etc. and the slightly added dragon soul damage from the 2h in the main weapon slot catches up a little on min/max damages of a duel 1h user.

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Only to confirm yet again on this thread. Gems are not doubled on BP.
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No wonder so many people still believe that non pure wariors are balanced. People just dont know them
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no, I just don't see a use why a warrior would only use a 2h. wars are there to use a shield. I usually fought with blade/shield or sword/shield, never with a 2 hander alone.

2h+shield full sdg's adds a huge bonus to the melee damage, making up for the stig in that field, altho skills do less without stig.
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Only to confirm yet again on this thread. Gems are not doubled on BP.
What do you mean? Not doubled in terms of damage or as in terms of 2 super gems only give 2BP opposed to 2x2?
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