Counter-Kill Skill Unfair? - Rejected - Conquer Online Forum

darkdestiny54 · 10-12-2009, 17:12

It's so painfully obvious that all of the idiots in conquer online use counter-kill when they are about to become red. Yes, I agree that people defending themselves should be able to use counter-kill when being attacked and not get pkp; HOWEVER, I do not agree that people attacking should be able to use counter-kill as an easy way to kill people so they do not become red.

My suggestion: Make counter-kill either disabled when attacking other players and flashing OR make counter-kill able to give you pkp while flashing since your intention is to kill people.

This is an UNFAIR advantage and makes the ninja FAR TOO POWERFUL. It is unfair for the other classes and for the victims being attacked.

Example: If I'm attacked by a ninja with counter-kill, I will die from his counter-kill defending myself and my attacker will walk away with 0 pkp.

Clenk~V.8 · 10-12-2009, 17:27

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Originally Posted by darkdestiny54

It's so painfully obvious that all of the idiots in conquer online use counter-kill when they become red. Yes, I agree that people defending themselves should be able to use counter-kill when being attacked and not get pkp; HOWEVER, I do not agree that people attacking should be able to use counter-kill as an easy way to kill people so they do not become red.

My suggestion: Make counter-kill either disabled when attacking other players and flashing OR make counter-kill able to give you pkp while flashing since your intention is to kill people.

This is an UNFAIR advantage and makes the ninja FAR TOO POWERFUL. It is unfair for the other classes and for the victims being attacked.

Example: If I'm attacked by a ninja with counter-kill, I will die from his counter-kill defending myself and my attacker will walk away with 0 pkp.

If you are weak enough to die by their CK, you have reason to be hitting them. You stand absolutely no chance fighting them.

darkdestiny54 · 10-12-2009, 17:28

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Originally Posted by Clenk~V.8

If you are weak enough to die by their CK, you have reason to be hitting them. You stand absolutely no chance fighting them.

You never have anything nice to say do you? Do you ever support anyone on this forum or are you just here to be the ****ing problem that everyone hates?

scotch222 · 10-12-2009, 17:29

i agree its unfair

darkdestiny54 · 10-12-2009, 17:33

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Originally Posted by scotch222

i agree its unfair

Thank you for agreeing with me!

scotch222 · 10-12-2009, 17:35

welcome i have gotten killed by it many times by the SAME pker, he also killed everyone else in twin city that he could.

darkdestiny54 · 10-12-2009, 17:40

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Originally Posted by scotch222

welcome i have gotten killed by it many times by the SAME pker, he also killed everyone else in twin city that he could.

Same in bi- they're using it to kill people yet they don't get pkp? How fair is that?! lol...

Aquaknight37 · 10-12-2009, 18:23

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Originally Posted by Clenk~V.8

If you are weak enough to die by their CK, you have reason to be hitting them. You stand absolutely no chance fighting them.

thats completely wrong, some guy on my server bulked out all his attack, but he has literally no defense. CK kills me in one hit, but my FB one hits him

i agree, Counter kill is slightly unfair

btw, when people make up all this junk about reflect hurting more because in 15 seconds, you will get hurt way more that CK... but who would be dumb enough to attack a reflecting guy for 15 seconds. with CK, i get one hit by half the server(who are CKers) and im lvl 130. I cant stop attacking the guy if i already died

maybe they should make it to where you have to be right next to the person for CK to work.... im getting hit by these guys when they are off the screen and i use pervade

XxREMYxX · 10-12-2009, 18:29

Yeah Counterkill is retarded, I was lvling my archer and doing scatter ofc. And there was a pure rb ninja flashing somewhere offscreen and his counterkill killed me.

When they released the ninja, they said it would have least defense of all classes, and would have to rely on stealth to kill. That is not what I am seeing, I see them tanking/potting off hits so Counterkill takes care of the threat for them.

And where the HELL, are the other classes pure skills. How can you contend with a class with pure skills on your pure trojans and warrios. Hell Dodge doesnt even work against archers anymore. Fix the mistakes before creating new ones.

darkdestiny54 · 10-12-2009, 18:33

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Originally Posted by Aquaknight37

thats completely wrong, some guy on my server bulked out all his attack, but he has literally no defense. CK kills me in one hit, but my FB one hits him

i agree, Counter kill is slightly unfair

btw, when people make up all this junk about reflect hurting more because in 15 seconds, you will get hurt way more that CK... but who would be dumb enough to attack a reflecting guy for 15 seconds. with CK, i get one hit by half the server(who are CKers) and im lvl 130. I cant stop attacking the guy if i already died

maybe they should make it to where you have to be right next to the person for CK to work.... im getting hit by these guys when they are off the screen and i use pervade

Thank you for your opinion =)

darkdestiny54 · 10-12-2009, 18:34

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Originally Posted by XxREMYxX

Yeah Counterkill is retarded, I was lvling my archer and doing scatter ofc. And there was a pure rb ninja flashing somewhere offscreen and his counterkill killed me.

When they released the ninja, they said it would have least defense of all classes, and would have to rely on stealth to kill. That is not what I am seeing, I see them tanking/potting off hits so Counterkill takes care of the threat for them.

And where the HELL, are the other classes pure skills. How can you contend with a class with pure skills on your pure trojans and warrios. Hell Dodge doesnt even work against archers anymore. Fix the mistakes before creating new ones.

I completely agree with you, it is unfair, especially to noobs. They're just trying to lvl and they get fogged by some ninja. How are the other classes supposed to compete with counter-kill?

Clenk~V.8 · 10-12-2009, 19:33

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Originally Posted by darkdestiny54

You never have anything nice to say do you? Do you ever support anyone on this forum or are you just here to be the ****ing problem that everyone hates?

Because I don't like your racist thread and this thread you say I have nothing nice to say? I support plenty of things on suggestions. I just don't agree TQ should weaken skills because you are too noob to survive it.

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Originally Posted by scotch222

welcome i have gotten killed by it many times by the SAME pker, he also killed everyone else in twin city that he could.

How exactly did he pk anyone inside Twin City?

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Originally Posted by darkdestiny54

I completely agree with you, it is unfair, especially to noobs. They're just trying to lvl and they get fogged by some ninja. How are the other classes supposed to compete with counter-kill?

If they got fogged they would end up dying anyway.

Shuyin. · 10-12-2009, 20:35

I voted "No" cause it's fair Imo...And anyway they won't change it =/ Wish you luck though , if it gets fixed , cool and if it doesn't ... I can live with it

Oh and I don't have a pure nin so..ya.

skyscan · 10-12-2009, 20:43

First, it's called counter-kill. as in it's an attack (you even get exp when it activates and hits a monster).

I do agree however, that people are abusing the no pkp rule (like me

). Since it counts as an attack, you should get the pkp's like an attack.

Oh btw: some people will won't read your first post and vote "no" right off the bat simply because you're saying ck as a whole is unfair, not the pkp part of it. you should have mentioned that, now there's going to be a lot of "no" for misinformation

ßauer. · 10-12-2009, 21:28

CK aint that strong, cant 1 hit me any how.

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10-12-2009, 17:12	#1
darkdestiny54 Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 105	Counter-Kill Skill Unfair? - Rejected It's so painfully obvious that all of the idiots in conquer online use counter-kill when they are about to become red. Yes, I agree that people defending themselves should be able to use counter-kill when being attacked and not get pkp; HOWEVER, I do not agree that people attacking should be able to use counter-kill as an easy way to kill people so they do not become red. My suggestion: Make counter-kill either disabled when attacking other players and flashing OR make counter-kill able to give you pkp while flashing since your intention is to kill people. This is an UNFAIR advantage and makes the ninja FAR TOO POWERFUL. It is unfair for the other classes and for the victims being attacked. Example: If I'm attacked by a ninja with counter-kill, I will die from his counter-kill defending myself and my attacker will walk away with 0 pkp. Last edited by darkdestiny54; 10-12-2009 at 17:32. Reason: Clearification

10-12-2009, 17:29	#4
scotch222 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far far away Posts: 74	i agree its unfair __________________ Crazyness comes in small packages Like me me and you is friends you smile, i smile you cry, i cry you hurt, i hurt you jump off a bridge i get a boat to save your butt cuz thatz how we roll

10-12-2009, 17:35	#6
scotch222 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far far away Posts: 74	welcome i have gotten killed by it many times by the SAME pker, he also killed everyone else in twin city that he could. __________________ Crazyness comes in small packages Like me me and you is friends you smile, i smile you cry, i cry you hurt, i hurt you jump off a bridge i get a boat to save your butt cuz thatz how we roll

10-12-2009, 18:29	#9
XxREMYxX Blessed Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: United States Posts: 171	Yeah Counterkill is retarded, I was lvling my archer and doing scatter ofc. And there was a pure rb ninja flashing somewhere offscreen and his counterkill killed me. When they released the ninja, they said it would have least defense of all classes, and would have to rely on stealth to kill. That is not what I am seeing, I see them tanking/potting off hits so Counterkill takes care of the threat for them. And where the HELL, are the other classes pure skills. How can you contend with a class with pure skills on your pure trojans and warrios. Hell Dodge doesnt even work against archers anymore. Fix the mistakes before creating new ones. __________________ ::::: Server: Gemini ::::: ::: Maasiai 130>130>127+ Ninja>Ninja>Ninja ::: ::: XxREMYxX 130>130>130 Ninja>Warrior>Trojan ::: ::: Røck.N.Rølla 120>128>122 Water>Ninja>Archer ::: Last edited by XxREMYxX; 10-12-2009 at 18:33.

10-12-2009, 20:43	#14
skyscan RdyFireAim Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Potato Posts: 1,500	First, it's called counter-kill. as in it's an attack (you even get exp when it activates and hits a monster). I do agree however, that people are abusing the no pkp rule (like me ). Since it counts as an attack, you should get the pkp's like an attack. Oh btw: some people will won't read your first post and vote "no" right off the bat simply because you're saying ck as a whole is unfair, not the pkp part of it. you should have mentioned that, now there's going to be a lot of "no" for misinformation __________________ Suggestions: Equipment Level "Jumping" -Recommended: See-through-a-soul Weapon Accessory/Garment More Gradual Damage Reduction Curve in BP -Pending: Healing Someone When They Have Full HP Last edited by skyscan; 10-12-2009 at 20:45.

10-12-2009, 21:28	#15
ßauer. Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 286	CK aint that strong, cant 1 hit me any how.

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