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Old 10-12-2009, 17:12   #1
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Exclamation Counter-Kill Skill Unfair? - Rejected

It's so painfully obvious that all of the idiots in conquer online use counter-kill when they are about to become red. Yes, I agree that people defending themselves should be able to use counter-kill when being attacked and not get pkp; HOWEVER, I do not agree that people attacking should be able to use counter-kill as an easy way to kill people so they do not become red.

My suggestion: Make counter-kill either disabled when attacking other players and flashing OR make counter-kill able to give you pkp while flashing since your intention is to kill people.

This is an UNFAIR advantage and makes the ninja FAR TOO POWERFUL. It is unfair for the other classes and for the victims being attacked.

Example: If I'm attacked by a ninja with counter-kill, I will die from his counter-kill defending myself and my attacker will walk away with 0 pkp.

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Old 10-12-2009, 17:27   #2
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It's so painfully obvious that all of the idiots in conquer online use counter-kill when they become red. Yes, I agree that people defending themselves should be able to use counter-kill when being attacked and not get pkp; HOWEVER, I do not agree that people attacking should be able to use counter-kill as an easy way to kill people so they do not become red.

My suggestion: Make counter-kill either disabled when attacking other players and flashing OR make counter-kill able to give you pkp while flashing since your intention is to kill people.

This is an UNFAIR advantage and makes the ninja FAR TOO POWERFUL. It is unfair for the other classes and for the victims being attacked.

Example: If I'm attacked by a ninja with counter-kill, I will die from his counter-kill defending myself and my attacker will walk away with 0 pkp.
If you are weak enough to die by their CK, you have reason to be hitting them. You stand absolutely no chance fighting them.
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Old 10-12-2009, 17:28   #3
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If you are weak enough to die by their CK, you have reason to be hitting them. You stand absolutely no chance fighting them.
You never have anything nice to say do you? Do you ever support anyone on this forum or are you just here to be the ****ing problem that everyone hates?
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i agree its unfair
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welcome i have gotten killed by it many times by the SAME pker, he also killed everyone else in twin city that he could.
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If you are weak enough to die by their CK, you have reason to be hitting them. You stand absolutely no chance fighting them.
thats completely wrong, some guy on my server bulked out all his attack, but he has literally no defense. CK kills me in one hit, but my FB one hits him

i agree, Counter kill is slightly unfair

btw, when people make up all this junk about reflect hurting more because in 15 seconds, you will get hurt way more that CK... but who would be dumb enough to attack a reflecting guy for 15 seconds. with CK, i get one hit by half the server(who are CKers) and im lvl 130. I cant stop attacking the guy if i already died

maybe they should make it to where you have to be right next to the person for CK to work.... im getting hit by these guys when they are off the screen and i use pervade
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Yeah Counterkill is retarded, I was lvling my archer and doing scatter ofc. And there was a pure rb ninja flashing somewhere offscreen and his counterkill killed me.

When they released the ninja, they said it would have least defense of all classes, and would have to rely on stealth to kill. That is not what I am seeing, I see them tanking/potting off hits so Counterkill takes care of the threat for them.

And where the HELL, are the other classes pure skills. How can you contend with a class with pure skills on your pure trojans and warrios. Hell Dodge doesnt even work against archers anymore. Fix the mistakes before creating new ones.
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Yeah Counterkill is retarded, I was lvling my archer and doing scatter ofc. And there was a pure rb ninja flashing somewhere offscreen and his counterkill killed me.

When they released the ninja, they said it would have least defense of all classes, and would have to rely on stealth to kill. That is not what I am seeing, I see them tanking/potting off hits so Counterkill takes care of the threat for them.

And where the HELL, are the other classes pure skills. How can you contend with a class with pure skills on your pure trojans and warrios. Hell Dodge doesnt even work against archers anymore. Fix the mistakes before creating new ones.
I completely agree with you, it is unfair, especially to noobs. They're just trying to lvl and they get fogged by some ninja. How are the other classes supposed to compete with counter-kill?
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You never have anything nice to say do you? Do you ever support anyone on this forum or are you just here to be the ****ing problem that everyone hates?
Because I don't like your racist thread and this thread you say I have nothing nice to say? I support plenty of things on suggestions. I just don't agree TQ should weaken skills because you are too noob to survive it.

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welcome i have gotten killed by it many times by the SAME pker, he also killed everyone else in twin city that he could.
How exactly did he pk anyone inside Twin City?

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I completely agree with you, it is unfair, especially to noobs. They're just trying to lvl and they get fogged by some ninja. How are the other classes supposed to compete with counter-kill?
If they got fogged they would end up dying anyway.
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thats completely wrong, some guy on my server bulked out all his attack, but he has literally no defense. CK kills me in one hit, but my FB one hits him

i agree, Counter kill is slightly unfair

btw, when people make up all this junk about reflect hurting more because in 15 seconds, you will get hurt way more that CK... but who would be dumb enough to attack a reflecting guy for 15 seconds. with CK, i get one hit by half the server(who are CKers) and im lvl 130. I cant stop attacking the guy if i already died

maybe they should make it to where you have to be right next to the person for CK to work.... im getting hit by these guys when they are off the screen and i use pervade
Thank you for your opinion =)
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