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Old 07-04-2010, 21:40   #1
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botjailed for sitting in lucky time in tc?

ok i had two characters logged in and one being 2nd rb the other 1st rb. both sitting in tc next to flametaoist with my 2nd rb doing lucky time. i go and watch anime for a couple hours after todays maint. i come back to look at my characters to see if my 2nd rb was out of red(was pking couple days before) only to see my 1st rb not there no more. so i swap over to my 1st rb to see it coming up saying i was sent to botjail for botting on 7/4/2010(todays date).

how that came about i've no idea since all i did was sit in tc in lucky time. so cindy can you check this please. and can you actually tell me what i was caught for. and please don't say "the system caught you using a bot" because frankly sitting in lucky time you don't really need a bot for that

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oh also i had only just returned to conquer so my client was newly re-installed so if it's that then tq is either giving out editted clients to slap people in botjail or the installer is faulty. and i do have avg. but i had read the post about avg removing the file and causing others to be botjailed and have tken the measures to stop it from removing the file. and if it was for editted client why wasn't my 2nd rb botjailed also?
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According to our records, you were caught of using so called ******** or some similar proxy programs at around 11:09 am, June 24th. But we put you into jail on June 25th, some hours after that. Hope I answered your question.
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According to our records, you were caught of using so called ******** or some similar proxy programs at around 11:09 am, June 24th. But we put you into jail on June 25th, some hours after that. Hope I answered your question.
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Can u tell me why my char AhMeD on Royalty_eu server was botjailed?
Lvl 17 only spend time in tc and mk with him since he is my seller. Ty vm
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According to our records, you were caught of using so called ******** or some similar proxy programs at around 11:09 am, June 24th. But we put you into jail on June 25th, some hours after that. Hope I answered your question.
i'm guessing ******** is a proxy bot lol but if that was the case. i remember seeing somebody saying the client check was a simple 2 byte patch to overwrite the check. so wouldn't it be possible that the makers of a proxy would also know how to do this patch meaning it would make the botters undetectable anyway?

it's what i'm guessing anyway since i still see botters running rampant in hawkings, birdmen and hawkings 2nd island spawn. but i don't even know what ******** is and i don't see the point in botting this game as it's easy enough already.

also i was botjailed on 4th of july not june 25th as i had said in my original post. so please cindy are you sure your looking at the right character?

edit: after doing research what ******** was. it was discontinued a few months back. i didn't bother looking for what other proxies are out there because well i might as well use it and be safe from botjail rather than not use it and get botjailed lol
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edit: after doing research what ******** was. it was discontinued a few months back. i didn't bother looking for what other proxies are out there because well i might as well use it and be safe from botjail rather than not use it and get botjailed lol
LOL, moar research buddy, it's still running LOL!
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Can u tell me why my char AhMeD on Royalty_eu server was botjailed?
Lvl 17 only spend time in tc and mk with him since he is my seller. Ty vm
I have already answered your PM, please check it.

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i'm guessing ******** is a proxy bot lol but if that was the case. i remember seeing somebody saying the client check was a simple 2 byte patch to overwrite the check. so wouldn't it be possible that the makers of a proxy would also know how to do this patch meaning it would make the botters undetectable anyway?

it's what i'm guessing anyway since i still see botters running rampant in hawkings, birdmen and hawkings 2nd island spawn. but i don't even know what ******** is and i don't see the point in botting this game as it's easy enough already.

also i was botjailed on 4th of july not june 25th as i had said in my original post. so please cindy are you sure your looking at the right character?

edit: after doing research what ******** was. it was discontinued a few months back. i didn't bother looking for what other proxies are out there because well i might as well use it and be safe from botjail rather than not use it and get botjailed lol

Sorry for my mistake, but you were recorded twice, once on June 24th, the other on July 4th. And as I have already answered, you know what you were caught for.
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Woah, nelly. They're actually telling people specifically what they are being botjailed for? Well, sorta.

See, some time ago ******** changed their client name to something else to show up on the processes list as something other than "******** Proxy."

So, technically, the only instance "********" would show up on your processes list would be if you used an outdated ********/BCO Proxy client, which wouldn't work due to the fact that you need to log in, in order to use the bot. If the client is outdated, it forces you to upgrade to the newest version to use the bot. So if you were really caught for using the login screen of a 4-month-old-version of ********, then you do deserve to get botjailed.

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i was caught twice for using it? but if i was using it, wouldn't the days between those 2 dates stated show up in the log also? and also why wasn't my other account that was logged in most times with this character not sent to botjail with it if 1 client was suspected of ********? this is what springs to mind since i know i was on nearly everyday with 2 accounts.

as for the ******** being stopped i had asked people(my research lol) that had used ********. they told me it had stopped allowing em to log in(so assumed it had been discontinued). but they never got caught in fact most of their ninja farm wasn't caught even with the latest sweep lol. as for what VOlcan0.o? said, you have to update your client else it won't work meaning i woulda been undetectable if i had been using ********.

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also you said i was put in botjail on the 25th of june when i wasn't put in there. and then caught and sent again on july 4th. july 4th was my first visit into botjail so your saying i was sent to botjail twice but i've only been put in once. something is starting to really smell fishy with these records
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..and when i say evidence...i mean evidence such as in fraps,that the business and the customers can view.

If this was a court case,the so called evidence u give of just stating that a character has been caught via the system doing...wateva....would not be taken into account.

Players,who are customers of this business,should be demading that evidence of footage is shown as proof to any illegal activities...and the business should be up-holding their customer ethics and producing such evidence b4 demanding payment from a customer by holding their char and equips at randsom.
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I dont see how any legit business that has their customers best interests in their sights can possibly be botjailing characters where the customers have to pay the company for the release of their characters without any evidence.

..and when i say evidence...i mean evidence such as in fraps,that the business and the customers can view.

If this was a court case,the so called evidence u give of just stating that a character has been caught via the system doing...wateva....would not be taken into account.

Players,who are customers of this business,should be demading that evidence of footage is shown as proof to any illegal activities...and the business should be up-holding their customer ethics and producing such evidence b4 demanding payment from a customer by holding their char and equips at randsom.
Actually, how TQ detects if someone is using a proxy is pretty legit.

And in a way that's so blatantly obvious and whined about consistently on the forums that no one seems to notice how they can stop it ;P
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And in a way that's so blatantly obvious and whined about consistently on the forums that no one seems to notice how they can stop it ;P
No it's not! All they do is check your processes list to see if any known proxies are running, check to see if anything is hooking to your client, and some other easily-bypass'able checks.

P.S. Rename your MSN to "BCO Proxy" and watch what happens. Pretty legit bot-checker they have in place.
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TQ's botcheck is total ****.

It only checks for processes by name that look suspicious.

So for example, I've made an Anti-Aimbot, this is in no way hurting the game,
in fact it prevents you from being hit by aimbot, yet they botjail you for it.

I fix TQ's stupid mistakes and help people out but they still botjail ya for it.
Quite retarded in my opinion.

So how did I stop their system from botjailing me?

Redid my assembly properties in my project, and renamed the tool from Anti-Aimbot.exe to msnmsgr.exe and no botjail.

So it fails, yeah.
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And in a way that's so blatantly obvious and whined about consistently on the forums that no one seems to notice how they can stop it ;P
Checking a players processes on their private pc without requesting permission for access each time and the owner accepting is not legit.

...again thou,proof of actually using the bot or illegal program within the game needs to be confirmed by recording video of that particular char using the program.
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i was caught twice for using it? but if i was using it, wouldn't the days between those 2 dates stated show up in the log also? and also why wasn't my other account that was logged in most times with this character not sent to botjail with it if 1 client was suspected of ********? this is what springs to mind since i know i was on nearly everyday with 2 accounts.

as for the ******** being stopped i had asked people(my research lol) that had used ********. they told me it had stopped allowing em to log in(so assumed it had been discontinued). but they never got caught in fact most of their ninja farm wasn't caught even with the latest sweep lol. as for what VOlcan0.o? said, you have to update your client else it won't work meaning i woulda been undetectable if i had been using ********.

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also you said i was put in botjail on the 25th of june when i wasn't put in there. and then caught and sent again on july 4th. july 4th was my first visit into botjail so your saying i was sent to botjail twice but i've only been put in once. something is starting to really smell fishy with these records
the records are flawed, we all know that. I'm starting to have second doubts about that program too. I wasn't botjailed yet, but my friend that was totally innocent got botjailed too. No idea how.
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