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Old 04-09-2014, 13:36   #46
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But it exist. Not knowing it is ignorance. Especially something that's been around forever.
Yes, of course, but it's not really surprising that people are ignorant about a skill that literally no one uses.
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And if it worked he wouldn't be a fool.

Assassins have been out since January, ignorance is not an excuse for stupidity.

If it worked people wouldn't have switched from Fire to Assassin.
Tros have been out for legit forever ... yet u still didnt know how attribute points on a tro work ..
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It's embarrassing for tq's designing team. maggot.
Excuses excuses, I see a whole lot of that and not a lot of manning up

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Yes, of course, but it's not really surprising that people are ignorant about a skill that literally no one uses.
Not true, Taos used to use it against Archers to avoid Bow damage
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Tros have been out for legit forever ... yet u still didnt know how attribute points on a tro work ..
No I just didn't have the gears to test total HP difference. I never asked a question about how it worked. I asked

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So assuming the following

Pirate has Pistol and Agility Build
Trojan 36 Agility

Is the difference in HP only 900?

Pirate gains 2.6k from pistol
Trojan gains 3.5 from extra attribute points and built in extra HP per attribute?
Where does it look like I don't understand the attribute points?
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Not true, Taos used to use it against Archers to avoid Bow damage


No I just didn't have the gears to test total HP difference. I never asked a question about how it worked. I asked



Where does it look like I don't understand the attribute points?
ur entire question either says u are a retard, hence why u expected an exact value of difference in hp (even when u were told like 3 times, u then got butt hurt, raged a lil and blamed everyone else for " not understanding" ).. knowing how attribute points work . or well u were ignorant. so which is it ?

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My gosh is it that hard to understand

Take a 215 Agilty Pirate with a +12 Pistol and all +12 Gear

Take The Same Character - With Same Chi/Jiang

Take a 36 Agility (rest in vitality) Trojan with +12 Gear

Is the difference in HP only 900

Read If You Didn't Understand First Time:
"If I have a +12 Pirate and its HP is 51,254 and I make it into a 36 Agility +12 Trojan is the HP now 52,054 AKA a difference of 900" Also what is the HP difference between the same character reincarnated 215 Agility Pirate +12 Pistol vs 120 Agility Trojan
you understood how attribute points work now did u ?
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Excuses excuses, I see a whole lot of that and not a lot of manning up
Not sure what excuses did I use, but sure bro, point it out, we can have a dispute here as well.
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ur entire question either says u are a retard, hence why u expected an exact value of difference in hp.. knowing how attribute points work . or well u were ignorant. so which is it ?
Assuming you reincarnate the same character with the same Chi/Jiang and all the gears are max +12 I could get a finite answer which is what I wanted.

This game used to have an error in which the way Monks took magical damage. There was no way to know this without testing it. I was asking someone to test it for me.

Testing something and knowing what the results should be is what you do in science. My hypothesis was that with Chi/Jiang eliminated as a variable as well as all other gear that grant HP bonuses, the difference between using a Trojan with 36 Agility would have 900 more HP than the same character as a Pirate with a +12 Pistol.

Everything in this game can be broken down into EXACT numbers.
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Assuming you reincarnate the same character with the same Chi/Jiang and all the gears are max +12 I could get a finite answer which is what I wanted.

This game used to have an error in which the way Monks took magical damage. There was no way to know this without testing it. I was asking someone to test it for me.

Testing something and knowing what the results should be is what you do in science. My hypothesis was that with Chi/Jiang eliminated as a variable as well as all other gear that grant HP bonuses, the difference between using a Trojan with 36 Agility would have 900 more HP than the same character as a Pirate with a +12 Pistol.

Everything in this game can be broken down into EXACT numbers.
Oh god, I just recalled you were that dumb ass keep insisting on an exact number difference between a trojan's hp from a pirate... are you still trying to find this "exact" number? haha, gotta look harder bro, but you will never find it.
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Assuming you reincarnate the same character with the same Chi/Jiang and all the gears are max +12 I could get a finite answer which is what I wanted.

This game used to have an error in which the way Monks took magical damage. There was no way to know this without testing it. I was asking someone to test it for me.

Testing something and knowing what the results should be is what you do in science. My hypothesis was that with Chi/Jiang eliminated as a variable as well as all other gear that grant HP bonuses, the difference between using a Trojan with 36 Agility would have 900 more HP than the same character as a Pirate with a +12 Pistol.

Everything in this game can be broken down into EXACT numbers.
Why are u tryna act smart, for u to test a hypothesis there should only be 1 variable, otherwise ur results are utter bs, so fact that u expected a exact value when u change from pirate to tro for everyone on co, makes u a retard, or u didnt understand how attributes work ... but hey "ignorance isnt an excuse for stupidity" now is it
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you dont thats your weakness. co is a game of rock paper scissors get over it ladies
what is the weakness of trojan?
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Why are u tryna act smart, for u to test a hypothesis there should only be 1 variable, otherwise ur results are utter bs, so fact that u expected a exact value when u change from pirate to tro for everyone on co, makes u a retard, or u didnt understand how attributes work ... but hey "ignorance isnt an excuse for stupidity" now is it
Not trying to ACT smart, it's simple science any first year science major could tell you. You remove variables to except for the ones you want to test. You can test more than one variable at the same time so long as you have a control.

Which is why I eliminated the other variables...

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My hypothesis was that with Chi/Jiang eliminated as a variable as well as all other gear
...and said use the same character. So what are you talking about. There would only be the two comparable stats HP, with the variable being class. The HP bonus from pistol and HP bonus from trojan attribute points are factored in.

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Oh god, I just recalled you were that dumb ass keep insisting on an exact number difference between a trojan's hp from a pirate... are you still trying to find this "exact" number? haha, gotta look harder bro, but you will never find it.
No, you're dumb for not realizing it

a.) existed
b.) retards such as yourself can't understand there is an EXACT number

I already found it
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Not trying to ACT smart, it's simple science any first year science major could tell you. You remove variables to except for the ones you want to test. You can test more than one variable at the same time so long as you have a control.

Which is why I eliminated the other variables...



...and said use the same character. So what are you talking about. There would only be the two comparable stats HP, with the variable being class. The HP bonus from pistol and HP bonus from trojan attribute points are factored in.



No, you're dumb for not realizing it

a.) existed
b.) retards such as yourself can't understand there is an EXACT number

I already found it
am not even gonna bother replying to anything, just please tell me this number you have come across after all ur hard research.
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what is the weakness of trojan?
pirate/ninja/pirate/taos/assassins/warriors etc.
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am not even gonna bother replying to anything, just please tell me this number you have come across after all ur hard research.
TrojanMaster +15% HP Bonus, so it changed when I tested 36 agility and 170 and 215 but its always 15% added so subtract 2616 each time.

Pirates +12 Pistol was 2616 I believe
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