View Poll Results: Lord Arrows
Would new arrows helpful? 7 53.85%
Do you like the idea of new level of arrows? 9 69.23%
Should this be reserved for pure archers? 7 53.85%
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Old 02-07-2010, 11:43   #1
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Smile Lord arrow - Biased Poll (Lacking a "no" option)

I would like to make an additional suggestion to help even the disparity in the classes, trojans, warriors, taos and ninjas have grown to be almost invincible against archers.Iin the beggining archers had a fair chance against other classes but as changes and updates have gome about the archer has been getting weaker and weaker, the talisman system was supposed to help even the playing field it does help, but not enough especially when a lvl 110 ninja with bp 225 not reborn can take out a lvl 134 bp 290 2 rb archer full super socket gear. This should not be possible. Archers are weak enough and don't need to be made weaker.

My suggestion is to introduce a new higher level arrow that will allow the high level archer to do more that 1 hp dmg.

Lord Arro - lvl 120 Attack 200-200 with +n% DMG stack 1000 these Arrows can be sold in the blacksmiths for 10,000 silver

n+% dmg might go like this depending on level and BP
lvl 120-123 = +10% dmg
lvl 124-126 = +15% dmg
lvl 127-129 = +20% dmg
lvl 130+ = +25% dmg

this would bring the archer back into the game and equalize the archers attack.
with out making major changes to the game.


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Old 02-07-2010, 11:54   #2
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I would like to make an additional suggestion to help even the diparity in the classes, as trogans, warriors, taos and ninjas have grown to be almost invincible against archers. in the beggining archers had a fair chance against other classes but as changes and updates have gome about the archer has been getting weaker and weaker, the talisman system was supposed to help even the playing field it does help, but not enough especially when a lvl 110 ninja with bp 185 not reborn can take out a lvl 134 bp 290 2 rb archer full super socket gear. this should not be possible. Archer is weak enough and don't need to be made weaker.

My suggestion is to introduce a new higher level arrow that will allow the high level archer to do more that 1 hp dmg.

Lord Arro - lvl 120 Attack 200-200 with +n% DMG stack 1000 these Arrows can be sold in the blacksmiths for 10,000 silver

n+% dmg might go like this depending on level and BP
lvl 120-123 = +10% dmg
lvl 124-126 = +15% dmg
lvl 127-129 = +20% dmg
lvl 130+ = +25% dmg

this would bring the archer back into the game and equalize the archers attack.
with out making major changes to the game
No, archers have twice the normal attack rate compared to others and doing %-based damage would probably weaken you due to tailsmons, and level 129 boots.
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Old 02-07-2010, 12:14   #3
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You miss the point it would strengthen the Archer since it would be based on the BP which is part of the talisman system,

Archers do not have twice normal attack the attack has become less than the original design.
aperently you have not had an archer.
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Old 02-07-2010, 12:21   #4
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i dont see how archers are weak...there is one of glory that hits everyone for a min of 1k damage. she 1 hits me with a regular shot
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Old 02-07-2010, 12:39   #5
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well that layer probably has a +8 or higher talisman and a higher BP and probably a rb trojan which can explain the power, this is only a thought anyway mostly for pure archers.
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the archer has been getting weaker and weaker, the talisman system was supposed to help even the playing field it does help, but not enough especially when a lvl 110 ninja with bp 225 not reborn can take out a lvl 134 bp 290 2 rb archer full super socket gear. This should not be possible. Archers are weak enough and don't need to be made weaker.
Dude, dont think anyone is any different, im 2nd rb fire 276 BP, all it takes is one fog zap from pretty much any ninja and im owned. The talisman doesnt even the playing field either, more sets a bigger gap between bulkers and normal players.
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That my point exactly not only that but the only real defense an archer has can be eliminated by Ninja counter strike. which gets frustrating,
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Old 02-07-2010, 14:16   #8
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well that layer probably has a +8 or higher talisman and a higher BP and probably a rb trojan which can explain the power, this is only a thought anyway mostly for pure archers.
being a reborn trojan would make no difference in the archers power.
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That my point exactly not only that but the only real defense an archer has can be eliminated by Ninja counter strike. which gets frustrating,
your real problem are the ninja and you put all other class in problem with you high level arrows!!
Just buy or make a +8 talisman!!

Everybody know.. Talismans+fog+zap is a big problem.. just remove it and all Co back to normal.. and yes... I have a char on Classic to!!
I just can't put all may 2.0 char's on trash.. I just don't spend more money til they make it funny again..and still waiting for some solution from TQ!!
I use to play in 2.0 server with friend on jail or GW but all of us wear full unique with no tails.. same chance for all and best skill won!!
Stop to buy craps and they stop make craps!!!
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I agree with this suggestion. Easy to implement. At least someone has brains on this forum =)

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archers are just fine as is, i have a hard enough time with them and its not becuase i have a "****" tower..full 2 soc sdg archer will still kick your ass even if you talis are better
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I'd love archer to stand a chance but... there's a slight "but".. archer and enemy with lets say +5 talys will do 1s. strengthening arrows by n% might help hit more then 1, but most ppl have Bless at least -3% in total, with would still leave archers at 1... archer needs a skill not a new arrow.
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i dont see how archers are weak...there is one of glory that hits everyone for a min of 1k damage
are u retarded ?

i`m archer with 315 BP +8 talismans
now arrows are attk 100-100

i do 1 DMG on a +11 tower user
i do 200 dmg on a +8 tower

90% of the players in my server have +8 i can`t kill any1 in GW or any other place

all trojans/warriors kill me 1 hit no matter if this arrow will be added i still be weak

if 200-200 is implemented i will do:

2 dmg on +11 talismans
400 dmg on +8 talismans

and still die 1 hit
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are u retarded ?

i`m archer with 315 BP +8 talismans
now arrows are attk 100-100

i do 1 DMG on a +11 tower user
i do 200 dmg on a +8 tower

90% of the players in my server have +8 i can`t kill any1 in GW or any other place

all trojans/warriors kill me 1 hit no matter if this arrow will be added i still be weak

if 200-200 is implemented i will do:

2 dmg on +11 talismans
400 dmg on +8 talismans

and still die 1 hit

no im not retarded but as + towers go, highest ive seen on my server is +7, most people on glory just pimp out the fan to +7-8 and dont do anything past +6 tower.

and you talis 2 soc with super gems?
list what gear you currently have plz.
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i think archers are money makers. Thats their only purpose. Archers didnt complain before talis
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