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Old 07-20-2009, 16:34   #346
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interesting the idea Capitano, could u make it in php with a litle interface? i would try it home and send u result back after test in the stable
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The following piece of TCL code can brute-force horse breeding strategies, or at least come close. It implements a genetic algorithm to search through the vast amount of possible strategies quickly. It seems to work, I managed to get correct solutions for emerald and shadow with it, but did not try any new strategies due to lack of cps. Also, while the algorithm works I am not sure if I implemented what we know about horse breeding correctly.

Question: Based on some things I found on the forum, I implemented the new RGB values for each breeding step as floor(0.9*value of major horse) + floor(0.1*value of minor horse). Is that correct?

For those skilled enough to get this piece of code running (I do not provide support for those who dont), put the RGB values of the horse you want to breed in the targethorse list at the top of the script, put a rough estimate of the amount of breeding steps in the initial_breeds variable (doesnt matter too much because the script can change this but guessing right improves the speed). To get a better solution, lower chainpenalty (eg to 1 or lower) and to get to a conclusion in less breeding steps, increase it (max ~20).

The quality of a strat can be estimated from the fitness value: in general anything below 1000 is good (within 10 of target for all three colors) but up to 10000 might be acceptable depending on the horse you want to breed. Also note that the breeding program tries to get as close to the target RGB values as possible but does not promise anything about the color the end result will have. We simply know too little about how close you have to get.

Feel free to edit but please repost the result here. happy breeding

The best strategy after each iteration will be in stdout and the file "ensemble.data" will contain all strats considered.
lol i tried pearl but it suggested something near 500 saddles in each iteration. I dunno if that's efficient
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lol i tried pearl but it suggested something near 500 saddles in each iteration. I dunno if that's efficient
im almost ready to test mine then ill let u know ^^
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I finish to translate the chineese page: here below:

***30333; = white = w
***40657; = black = b
***32418; = maroon = m

***39532; = steed


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tawny(***34880;***36420;)(not the right word from CO chinese table): m + b + b (tested)
shadow(***32032;***26001;): b + w + w (tested)

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mortar(***28784;***30524;): w + m + m (tested)
shadow(***32032;***26001;) + tawny(***34880;***36420;) + tawny(***34880;***36420;) = pink(***33005;***33026;) red(***32418;***32993;***23376;) agathe(***38632;***33457;) (not tested)
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w + B (mortar(***28784;***30524;)) + 3 x b (pine(***26494;***32441;)) + m (sapphire(***27700;***32441;)) + 4 x m (shadow(***38737;***26001;)) + b = (golden(***36196;***37329;)) (not tested)
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w + m + m (mortar(***28784;***30524;)) + m (shadow(***38737;***26001;)) + w (emerald(***36367;***38738;)) + b (cobalt(***38737;***26001;)) (not tested)
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b + m + m + m (shadow(***32032;***26001;)***65289;+ m***65288;pink(***33005;***33026;)) + 2 x m***65288;coral(***38634;***39683;)***65289;+ w***65288;red(***32418;***32993;***23376;))
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b + w + w***65288;shadow(***32032;***26001;)***65289;+ w + w***65288;ivory(***30333;***27627;)***65289;+ b = lilac(***32475;***32043;***39545;) (tested)
7
w + b + m***65288;few(***22810;***20960;***27425;***65289;) = diamond(***32736;***33216;) (not tested)
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m b b b = sandy(***40644;***26636;) (not tested)
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m w w w = khaki(***40644;***39584;) (tested)
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b + m + m + m + w + w + w + w = paisley(***27224;***26001;) (not tested)
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w + 5 x [m + (w + m)] + 7 x m + w + m + w = misty(***22823;***28448;***39118;) (tested = great one)
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b + 3 x m + w (agathe(***38632;***33457;***65289;) + 2 x b + w + m + b = yellow(***29422;***23376;***39545;) (not tested)
13
w + 8 x m = moon(***30333;***39069;) (tested)



Now if you find good Chinese link post it and I will have a look for new colors to add on here
tested misty on my own and it works great thanks =D.. after i made the misty with saddles i mixed in my +4 sandy but i kept the original breed. that makes the values stay unchanged correct?
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LOL... What settings did you try to get there? An approximation of pearl in few steps that I get is white maroon white maroon white maroon white maroon white maroon resulting in: 83.0 215.0 95.0

Probably not good enough...

Of course, pearl has only 306 color points and basic horses have 405, of which one may dissappear per breeding step, so to actually get to the correct values would indeed take hundreds of horses. That is a fundamental issue with the way breeding works as we understand now. Perfect values may not be required though and it's anybodies guess how close you have to get.

I will post some candidate solutions for unknown steeds that are easier to solve later.
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so nobody got a rare steed yet?and to do this u need thousands of cps to expirement just to get a rare steedsmartass TQ lol
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I have an Agate (+2) steed, but I like the Shadow steed better.... Can anyone help me figure what colours I need to turn the Agate into the Shadow?
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LOL... What settings did you try to get there? An approximation of pearl in few steps that I get is white maroon white maroon white maroon white maroon white maroon resulting in: 83.0 215.0 95.0

Probably not good enough...

Of course, pearl has only 306 color points and basic horses have 405, of which one may dissappear per breeding step, so to actually get to the correct values would indeed take hundreds of horses. That is a fundamental issue with the way breeding works as we understand now. Perfect values may not be required though and it's anybodies guess how close you have to get.

I will post some candidate solutions for unknown steeds that are easier to solve later.
set breedchain ""
set chainnumber 100
set initial_breeds 40
set mutationchance 0.05
set extendchance 0.02
set truncatechance 0.02
set crosschance 0.02
set chainpenalty .5

set targethorse "55 199 52"

that's what i tried. i changed the penalty from < 1 and then higher, but still got crazy amounts of saddles. The color amounts decrease by 1 each time you compose, but after a certain point it decreases by greater values. I think after maybe 10 compositions, but maybe less. GoN i believe knows more about how fast the amount decreases over a given number of saddles
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w + [m + (w + m)] + [m + (w + m)] + [m + (w + m)] +[m + (w + m)] + [m + (w + m)] + m + m + m + m + m + m+ m + w + m + w = Misty
LEMME TRY N BREAK THIS DOWN FURTHER TO A BEER DRINKERS (LAYMEN'S) TERMS!!

1. First combine w+m 5 times (u now have 5 whites with like 10 lineage)
2. Then combine one maroon (on left side) with each of the 5 combines u did.(u should now have 5 +2 maroons)
3. combine all 5 of those together
4. then combine that result with 7 maroons on the right side (By the second maroon u should have a +3 Emerald steed)
5. 3rd maroon combine a cobalt
6. 7th maroon u should get a moon steed
7. then 1 white gives u a cobalt
8. then one maroon gives u a moon steed again
9. then one white gave me cobalt!

ok so what are we doing wrong here????
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Is 100 pct correct, i just used it for mine <3
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uh... i think i figured out the zebra steed using math and photoshop skills. I'm going to try and make it. I'll post a picture of me and my friend riding it. I'm not sure if i should share the formula tho ;P
Figured it out. Sorry- I'm not saying anything else- good luck though. ^^
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Figured it out. Sorry- I'm not saying anything else- good luck though. ^^
gratz, claim your fame with a new thread and a full screenshot with you showing ur horse. other wise it could just be an edit where u switch files
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