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Old 06-24-2016, 22:20   #1
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Speedgun and Agility

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Does agility effect the hitrate of speedgun vs. other players?

I've always though it hasn't, but someone claimed it did. Anyone tested it?
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Old 06-24-2016, 22:45   #2
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no agility has no effect on speedgun, but more agility is nice to hit a melee non speedgun
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no agility has no effect on speedgun, but more agility is nice to hit a melee non speedgun
Thanks for the response. Yeah, however, I'm finding that, charging vortex being at 90% vs a normal melee at 100% isn't much difference, especially considering how easy to is to chain cortex's. What's better, 10% more attack on a regular melee or 100 (or however much agility you use for melees) extra attribute points for HP? I think I'd pick the HP. Charging vortex for noobs, speedgun for people higher BP/=BP.
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Thanks for the response. Yeah, however, I'm finding that, charging vortex being at 90% vs a normal melee at 100% isn't much difference, especially considering how easy to is to chain cortex's. What's better, 10% more attack on a regular melee or 100 (or however much agility you use for melees) extra attribute points for HP? I think I'd pick the HP. Charging vortex for noobs, speedgun for people higher BP/=BP.
Normal melee hits are not 100%. Go to TG, hit the poles with vortex and after that hit with melee. Go and take a look, it will make you consider putting some points in agility.
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Normal melee hits are not 100%. Go to TG, hit the poles with vortex and after that hit with melee. Go and take a look, it will make you consider putting some points in agility.
Do u know how much agility points should be used for good hit rate
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Well, I am max attribute points I use 176 str 130 agility and 594 hp and still have about 55k hp. I find for a 99.9pct change hit if I don't get a speedgun that 130 agility is needed for 129 +12 boots. Lately I've been doing charging vortex into a melee hit with stig I hit like 32-36k vortex, 50k non speedguns and 74k speedguns on non tort users. Im one of those wierdos that uses a bow in alt gears for the lazy damage, so I have bow+shield. I am 375ish bp with a max att of 36k with spear +12 crop and p7 souls.
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Well, I am max attribute points I use 176 str 130 agility and 594 hp and still have about 55k hp. I find for a 99.9pct change hit if I don't get a speedgun that 130 agility is needed for 129 +12 boots. Lately I've been doing charging vortex into a melee hit with stig I hit like 32-36k vortex, 50k non speedguns and 74k speedguns on non tort users. Im one of those wierdos that uses a bow in alt gears for the lazy damage, so I have bow+shield. I am 375ish bp with a max att of 36k with spear +12 crop and p7 souls.
thats good stat
u got all those attribute from doing thos fruits which add 1-3 point ?
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yea i got the fruits from the champ store and paid 270cps per fruit
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Normal melee hits are not 100%. Go to TG, hit the poles with vortex and after that hit with melee. Go and take a look, it will make you consider putting some points in agility.
I think maybe you misunderstood what I said, or I did not explain it clearly enough, sorry if it's the later. I was only referring to speedgun hit rate, I know that normal melees are dependent on agility.

Just for everyone's knowledge, I made the switch to 0 agility (well, min. agility) and 176 str and rest on HP. I find it works better, since I only kill with speedgun or chained cortexs usually.
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Try this!

Get a dagger + fix pen +200 agility, zap and watch a warrior with tripple,
damage is greater than fix speedgun and u have a chance of hitting double even tripple hits.

works nice as an alt weapon, great for stunned watertaos.
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I play wat-nin-war, poison-blade/shield,spear in alt. att>def warrior build.

stig +spear > spear +shield, stig vortex > spear/shield vortex.

poisonzap+stig works.

fog so I dont chase 99 pct of the time.

magic shield at will (nice)

accuracy for easy mellee hits (great add)

im pro zap into fb, so expect poisonzap fb chain hits into stigged vortex spams,
constant zaps (ty perfection system) keeps my stamina up, and if ur not full detox im sorry

I play with my bottom palm on the ctrl so u know i got 4 fingers on my f-keys.


imo, this is the warrior build that owns every class.

If u got money build this and hire me for events
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I play wat-nin-war, poison-blade/shield,spear in alt. att>def warrior build.

stig +spear > spear +shield, stig vortex > spear/shield vortex.

poisonzap+stig works.

fog so I dont chase 99 pct of the time.

magic shield at will (nice)

accuracy for easy mellee hits (great add)

im pro zap into fb, so expect poisonzap fb chain hits into stigged vortex spams,
constant zaps (ty perfection system) keeps my stamina up, and if ur not full detox im sorry

I play with my bottom palm on the ctrl so u know i got 4 fingers on my f-keys.


imo, this is the warrior build that owns every class.

If u got money build this and hire me for events
Nice strategy heres my counter. CLASS: DW SKILLS: WWK + 2X FB = GG
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Nice strategy heres my counter. CLASS: DW SKILLS: WWK + 2X FB = GG

Nah, If u do get that skill on me Im quick on my f-5key (def-stance) + 75pct block... u fb-ing me and I fb-ing u back...war owns!
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Im in arena,,

seems this is the best time to fog a DW aft def-stance ofc.
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Im in arena,,

seems this is the best time to fog a DW aft def-stance ofc.
Which server are you on again?
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