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Old 12-16-2010, 16:06   #91
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Herf Nercules ty
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Old 12-16-2010, 16:09   #92
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I have a 353 fire with Defence DragonSoul armor, I am being herced for 15k by a 330 trojan without any 130+ gear.
I wonder how we will even be able to compete in guild war now? I mean only Pishu builds can go to pole? If every trojan is 1-2 hercing everyone else and herc has incresed range...How do we do GW now?

Ninjas still own.
Trojans now own again.

Fire still get 1 hit p-zapped, and now get herced for crazy damage.

Also waters with spears are deadly. Though that isn't over powered.
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Old 12-16-2010, 16:12   #93
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Ninjas still own.
Trojans now own again.

Fire still get 1 hit p-zapped, and now get herced for crazy damage.

Also waters with spears are deadly. Though that isn't over powered.
Ninjas and spear waters won't have a chance to get near a stigged, hercing Trojan before they're dead, at least not if the Trojan has decent gears.
So against Trojans, I woulndn't really say Ninjas "own"
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Ive yet to update my sig but I have my full +12 war and same ninja maxed gear on both. On the ninja a trojan with 6 less bp than me with stig will hit me for 15k. Then we have fb/ss a trojan of equal bp can hit me for 26k without stig. WITHOUT. Yes this is completely fair. My tfb doesnt even hit people that hard without stig and ninjas have more attack then a trojan.
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32 People are hurc noobs that need to be hurced to death! Like if you agree. Oh gawd this isn't youtube...
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Old 12-16-2010, 17:00   #96
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Ive yet to update my sig but I have my full +12 war and same ninja maxed gear on both. On the ninja a trojan with 6 less bp than me with stig will hit me for 15k. Then we have fb/ss a trojan of equal bp can hit me for 26k without stig. WITHOUT. Yes this is completely fair. My tfb doesnt even hit people that hard without stig and ninjas have more attack then a trojan.
How can you possibly still be whining about OP'edness when you have gears as such? FB/SS is used with a price, if you have skills nobody is stopping you from using it, and I'm sure you can afford +12 Blade/Club/Sword

On the other hand, TFB is a spam kick skill which doesn't consume ANY stamina unless if you hit...FB/SS isn't suppose to be the same as TFB, because it takes more skills and more risk therefore it should be this way.

As for herc.....yes it is over powered, but I sense that something will be done about it. If not than just reincarnate into a Water-War-Tro.
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Mods removed my opinions from this thread? turds lol.




Anyway as stated in all the other threads, fires now get 120+ gears if im not mistaken so its actually quite needed for class balancing. Fires WERE op'ed... now they get defense buffs to to higher leveled gears...so whats the big deal about increasing other classes attack?
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Anyway as stated in all the other threads, fires now get 120+ gears if im not mistaken so its actually quite needed for class balancing. Fires WERE op'ed... now they get defense buffs to to higher leveled gears...so whats the big deal about increasing other classes attack?
When maxed trojans can 1 hit herc each other with crit hercs, something is wrong. I had two STGs and still got 1 hit. No stig. I have 138 armor/coro and 134 necky and got 1 hit by someone without 130+ gear >.>
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Hang in there, bet you anything Herc will get rebalanced.
It's way too ridiculous to slip by.
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This isn't like fire's OPed or Ninjas...this has basically an AoE 1 hit..I don't recall vortex or or FOH or FC doing 1 hits to other +12 chars.
I'm *****ing sure lol it's kind of going to ruin GW.
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Currently the list of how OP things are goes like this

Fires

Ninjas

Pure warrior using zap

Trojans (equal to non pure ninjas but pure ninjas still are more OP)

Monk

Non zapping warriors

Water

Archer (Tho it can be argued that archers are better then waters)



I'd say power archers and waters up a bit, give warriors who use sword/shield somthing and this game should be pretty balanced class wise ( not so much gear wise, but thats not the issue atm)
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And here we all thought that monks would be overpowered....haven't seen one complaint about them yet, it's all about the new retarded stength of herc...obviously there is a problem when the newly released class is not the most OP thing in the game
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Currently the list of how OP things are goes like this

Fires

Ninjas

Pure warrior using zap

Trojans (equal to non pure ninjas but pure ninjas still are more OP)

Monk

Non zapping warriors

Water

Archer (Tho it can be argued that archers are better then waters)



I'd say power archers and waters up a bit, give warriors who use sword/shield somthing and this game should be pretty balanced class wise ( not so much gear wise, but thats not the issue atm)
id rape your archer with my water.
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Old 12-16-2010, 20:01   #104
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brief history in a hand basket. a few years ago everyone said and agreed tros being able to 1hit everyone was OP. Enter blessed items and STGs. That was the answer to an unbalanced game. Now here we go basically making it to where STGS and blessed items don't matter anymore. Fire Op was penetration and they fixed that. People saying fires are OP are ridiculous. A full +12 fully artifact geared tao does 2600 to me on a warrior with a HELMET.

Taking a look at all of this. I had equal bp to a tro with a blade sword while i had 2 katas. Same amount of permed artifacts and everything. Duplicate gear all around. This trojan was able to do more to me with fb/ss then i could to him with tfb. THAT WAS BEFORE THIS PATCH. Same trojan is hitting 5k more then my ninja possibly can and I have 138 weapons and 136 ring when he still has 130 gear. Now where is that fair. He is hitting me 24-26k while I cant even break 19k on him This is without both stig and crit. I have to be stigged to hit as much as a non stigged trojan when my stats are clearly higher than his. So lets be realistic here. There is something wrong with FB/SS. Test it your damn self if you dont believe me.
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id rape your archer with my water.
Not if your gears are anywere near mine.
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