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Old 08-22-2008, 14:34   #1
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Question Blade Vs Sword

It's all in the title, what do YOU think is better? I will lay out some of the features of both weapons. Personally i think blade is better, but it does have its bad sides.

Blade

-Significantly higher attack then sword (meaning fb > ss)
-Can be made into a poison blade (rare item, and can also allow you to poison the target with either a melee hit or a zap)
-Easier to level proficiency (has no weapon skill)

My thoughts - Is superior to sword if you are going to use it for FB, but is not a good choice for melee unless you have high agility.

Sword

-More then twice as much accuracy then a blade
-Phoenix (does much damage if you can manage to fix it)

My thoughts - Sword is an all-around good weapon, perfect for melee attacking with both phoenix and the high accuracy. However, sword only does about 2/3 damage of what a blade does.


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Old 08-22-2008, 15:07   #2
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Old 08-22-2008, 15:58   #3
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On Blades:

1.) A Blade has, on average, a 13-15% weapon damage advantage over a Sword of the same quality, level, and stats. That's really not that significant on its own. However when coupled with multiple Dragon Gems, it becomes significant - its essentially like having an extra SDG.

2.) Poison Blades can only be obtained through rebirth to any melee class. You can't just make any blade into a Poison Blade. Since Poison Blades are Unique lvl 40 non-socketed blades in the beginning, it can be very expensive to produce a quality weapon from them.

My Thoughts (From a Trojan's prospective):

Levels 40-120:

Blades are a great all-around off hand weapon from levels 40-120. The low dexterity isn't as much of an issue for non-reborn. Blades are perfect companions for clubs, because their lack of a weapon skill means that only Rage can activate. The activation rate of Rage is moderate, which makes up in part for the overall low agility that this combination provides. The club also increases the potency of FastBlade attacks by increasing your maximum damage output.

Levels 120+: Continue to use Club/Blade Combo for leveling. Use Dual Blades for PvP, provided you have at least full 1 socket SDG gear. At these levels the extra attack power of a Club usually isn't needed. Also, you'll gain the option to be able to use Hercules in a melee situation.

On Swords:

1.) Has a weapon skill that, when fixed, provides a 25% increase in weapon damage. This easily compensates for the 15% weapon damage loss when choosing a sword over a blade.

2.) Swords have double the dexterity bonus of a blade, making them perfect for direct melee combat.

3.) Phoenix, when fixed, will activate 78% of the time. This means that in a direct melee situation, you are going to do maximum damage more often.

4.) Phoenix will activate extremely often. This means that when leveling, if you are using a Club/Sword combo, Rage will activate ALOT less. This will negatively impact the speed at which you gain experience. It also makes it extremely difficult to level weapon proficiency.

5.) Using ranged attacks (ScentSword) usually requires the attacker to have better gear than a blade user, due to a sword's reduced damage.

6.) Phoenix is extremely difficult to fix without alot of patience.

My Thoughts (From a Trojan's prospective):

Levels 40-120: Stick to Blades unless you haven't learned the Phoenix Skill.

Levels 120+: Stick to Club/Blade combo until level 123. After that level most mobs give crap experience with the exception of L122 DevilKings. At that point you can swap the blade out for a sword if you wish, because most of the time you'll only have at most, 4 monsters in a group - spawns are small in Wine Cave.

For PvP you have several options: Club/Sword for maximum raw damage output, Dual Sword for the ability to herc, or Blade/Sword for the best of both worlds - Awesome direct melee power with higher ranged attack power (FastBlade).
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Old 08-22-2008, 17:29   #4
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really , it is personaly preference ,

some people think fb is easier to do then ss , i personal think so ,
while there are some that does better at ss , just because they do

personally am a nix and fb person , i like blade sword combo , while because of the 78 percent activation rate on a fixed nix , personally i think it's worth it to fix , not to say it does alot of damage right on impact and it does lag the person who gets hit

really , i think every tro should own at least one sword and one blade ( maybe an extra blade or duel clubs for hurcing )
though ppl call hurcing '" noob " some times it's good to step back , kill some taos by hurcing

unless ur good at ss / fb or meleeing i would stick with duel blades till i guess ur so good that u can hit a jumping , zapping , tao 25 percent of the time

personally again , am not a HUGE fan of trojans , i like fires now :P used to play warrior , what it really comes down is , what ur gear is , what kind of range skill u like ( fb / ss ) and what u often do ( melee or always fb/ss and sit )
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Personally, i used to like swords, but knowing how hard it was to lvl nix i started using Blades
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It's all in the title, what do YOU think is better? I will lay out some of the features of both weapons. Personally i think blade is better, but it does have its bad sides.

Blade

-Significantly higher attack then sword (meaning fb > ss)
-Can be made into a poison blade (rare item, and can also allow you to poison the target with either a melee hit or a zap)
-Easier to level proficiency (has no weapon skill)

My thoughts - Is superior to sword if you are going to use it for FB, but is not a good choice for melee unless you have high agility.

Sword

-More then twice as much accuracy then a blade
-Phoenix (does much damage if you can manage to fix it)

My thoughts - Sword is an all-around good weapon, perfect for melee attacking with both phoenix and the high accuracy. However, sword only does about 2/3 damage of what a blade does.


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If you can get your hands on a nice poison blade, I'd go with blades. Regular blades are useless unless you are going dual blades (pb and regular blade). You should also consider getting both a poison blade and a sword. Very good combo, especially with fixed nix. As posted above, personal preference. I use a sword because I like ss, nix, and the extra agility.
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sword has more agility so its faster ss, blades are stronger than swords....but fb is slower.....

im pro at both, i know.....
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sword has more agility so its faster ss, blades are stronger than swords....but fb is slower.....

im pro at both, i know.....

btw fraps is ****......it lags u and reduces ur fps from 39 to abt 20....wth's with that!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It's all in the title, what do YOU think is better? I will lay out some of the features of both weapons. Personally i think blade is better, but it does have its bad sides.

Blade

-Significantly higher attack then sword (meaning fb > ss)
-Can be made into a poison blade (rare item, and can also allow you to poison the target with either a melee hit or a zap)
-Easier to level proficiency (has no weapon skill)

My thoughts - Is superior to sword if you are going to use it for FB, but is not a good choice for melee unless you have high agility.

Sword

-More then twice as much accuracy then a blade
-Phoenix (does much damage if you can manage to fix it)

My thoughts - Sword is an all-around good weapon, perfect for melee attacking with both phoenix and the high accuracy. However, sword only does about 2/3 damage of what a blade does.


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how you figure you can turn a blade into a posion blade, you can get a psn blade as a rb item during your next promotions but it doesn't change it into one. sword's having nix more than makes up for the difference in the 1/3 less atk power and the accuracy is always helpful


i've used both and unless your a tro really into fb'n i like sword better for all around use.
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i prefer blade.. since i have posion blade.. i can zap and posion or stun my enemy..

but sword .. i jsut dont have the time or patiences to level pheonix
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Sword is better overall.
Although the fixed phoenix doesn't entirely make up for the damage of the blade, it hits more often. Also has a bit weak distance skill.

Blade is likely better when PKing, due stronger distance skill. There is also poison.
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personally i use club/blade and club/sword or blade/blade

i like both ss and fb although fb seems to be stronger
on the otherhand the ss seems to be faster then the fb (dunno if thats just me or is it that way?)

conclusion : both are rlly good depends on what u like and what ur playstyle is
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If you can get your hands on a nice poison blade, I'd go with blades. Regular blades are useless unless you are going dual blades (pb and regular blade). You should also consider getting both a poison blade and a sword. Very good combo, especially with fixed nix. As posted above, personal preference. I use a sword because I like ss, nix, and the extra agility.
Im going with the poison blade and the club, if you saw my sig,(its a little off, allready pimped with 2 sdgs) you would know i already got one. Have yet to get a good club though, still havent 2nd reborned. As soon as i do, i will sell my wand and get a good club. Then i will be in business (after the extensive leveling)
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Im going with the poison blade and the club, if you saw my sig,(its a little off, allready pimped with 2 sdgs) you would know i already got one. Have yet to get a good club though, still havent 2nd reborned. As soon as i do, i will sell my wand and get a good club. Then i will be in business (after the extensive leveling)
its still easy to go 110 in 2nd rb its 110-112 that gets rough ^^
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