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Yes, i believe botting is a much better means of accomplshing goals on this game 83 45.86%
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Old 06-05-2009, 01:26   #16
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ugh i totally disagree with botting, it remains against the rules. The thing is, I wouldn't mind the level 90 tro botting his way up to level 110, yay for them. but if you use bots like speedhacks and aimbots then where is the fun?

like stated before, time is no longer progress in this game, for the non waterfarming players it takes over 2 months to achieve what they could achieve with 1 press on the paypal button for 7.99$. I agree that you have to play a game the way its created, but conquer online sure is an unique one in this concept. In every free mmorpg, you still have the odds to get better n improve, in here you will always be stuck with free items that you can tune up to lets say max +3-+4, n you will still get owned in the end..

in short botting is bad.. if you really are sick of how TQ runs conquer, there are alternatives..
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But its just like Barry Bonds. If you cheat, you might "win", but its classified as "win*" in the books....
If you feel you have to cheat to win, why would you even play? Where is the fun or enjoyment in succeeding through dubious means?
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But its just like Barry Bonds. If you cheat, you might "win", but its classified as "win*" in the books....
If you feel you have to cheat to win, why would you even play? Where is the fun or enjoyment in succeeding through dubious means?
there is no chance to succeed =p
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If you feel you have to cheat to win, why would you even play? Where is the fun or enjoyment in succeeding through dubious means?
Allmost everyone in CO realise that you have either buy lots of DBs or cheat (or sometimes even both) to win. And they still play, and they still find fun in there.
Long ago it was posible to win without that. Slowly it became imposible, only hope was left. Now we (the ones who dont cheat or buy DBs) dont even have hope to win. We just play in our small world where we play not for the win.
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I'm at school and I don't have time to discuss. However, think of botting as a cheaper, slower way of "bulking".

It still promotes gameplay (considering our current generation is very lazy, and continually increasing).

I believe botting levels out games, as long as the bots do not provide an unfair advantage over player vs player combat (which of course a certain bot does).

This game is so inflated by Bulking that botting is not what you should be worried about in PVP. (However, a botter and bulker combo is a killer combination, nearly unstoppable )

People want power, what they can't achieve in real life they seek in the game.
I somewhat agree with you there, Dan.

With a game like CO, I feel like everyone should have leveling bots because let's face it, the gameplay isn't very enticing with the exception of pvp, which currently on a steep hill.

For majority of the players, botting does somewhat level out the playing field. However, what about those players who do not use any bots for leveling purposes? They actually spend hours upon hours building up their character, while the botters go afk and reap the benefits when they return. Do we dismiss the legit players as "stupid" for following the rules?
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In all games are hax and bots , even in p2p games.
U fixed a bot a new version come out so is imposible to stop the bots.
Why ppl use bots?

1- Ppl who don't have enough time to play are starting to use lvling bots for they can be near those kids who play non-stop.
2- Other ppl prefer to pvp only and while the bot lvl up theyr char they do other things.
3- Ppl who can't pay for the game are using bots for increase theyr money in game.
4- Some ppl even make chars using bots to sell them for real cash.

The mentality of some ppl work like this : Why to pay for something that i can have for free ? Why to spend my time in front of the pc when my char can lvl up without me?

The only way to stop ppl using bots is to bann accounts forever.

Some other game companyes alredy start to exploit this bots offering theyr own bots included in the game client like it is the pathfinding in co.

EDIT : If is somebody from ch around maybe will explain for all of u some things about boting companyes which have over 1k employers who boting chars colecting gold and items and selling them for real cash on theyr own official sites.
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I'm proud of what i have achieved in game, I have never botted and i don't bulk.
Applies to a lot of people. Me included.

But it won't stop us from getting our ass whooped by someone who has bought enough dbs, whether its guild war, pk tournaments, pking, pk arena, jail, guild beast, you name it.

I have a belief that many people have:
Level botting = Bad, but it's not something I fret over.
PvP botting = Kos 4 life. Damn, I hate your guts.

I don't advocate level botting in all games. But in CO, the system is just that borked. It's either bot for money/levels or quit.

FYI, I've quit.
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Applies to a lot of people. Me included.

But it won't stop us from getting our ass whooped by someone who has bought enough dbs, whether its guild war, pk tournaments, pking, pk arena, jail, guild beast, you name it.

I have a belief that many people have:
Level botting = Bad, but it's not something I fret over.
PvP botting = Kos 4 life. Damn, I hate your guts.

I don't advocate level botting in all games. But in CO, the system is just that borked. It's either bot for money/levels or quit.

FYI, I've quit.
trust me dude , co is one of the game who have the smallest amout of boters , take a look at slikraod , cabal and many others , are more bots and gold seller then players
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I would say botting in general is like the low road. For whatever reasons, you decide that you can't/don't want to play the game as it was made, and so you will use something to give yourself an advantage over others (maybe not all others, but we'll say a good percentage). In MMO's I think thats bad, simply because of the nature of the game. Time = progress. Be it farming for money, leveling, or whatever. To have something automatically do it for you just destroys the point of whoever works the hardest can be the best. That, in my opinion, is the true core of these games. Now granted, not all games are "balanced" as others, but if I was given the choice to play I probably wouldn't. There's just too many games out there I could play, and these games are especially time consuming.
This should not be confused with cheating, like what happens in regular games. up up down down left right left right a b a b select start is still full of win.
Hemp makes good points. Botters want better gear so they bot. Bulkers want better gear so they bulk. Personally I'm content with halfass slightly above average chars/gear that I've worked to build without resorting to either.
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trust me dude , co is one of the game who have the smallest amout of boters , take a look at slikraod , cabal and many others , are more bots and gold seller then players
Yeah, i have tryed silkroad. Boter on every corner. And you just cant simply killed them. When one botter pissed me off i showed him the way of CO
Then i became red at once and had much problems . The bigest problem there is that there are legal bots too. People pay and they are alowed to bot.
I cant believe me saying that but in a way SRO s*cks even more than CO
And in CO... there are much more boters, just u cant see them. people know how to bot . And there are many macro programs that helps too just you dont notice people using them
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Allmost everyone in CO realise that you have either buy lots of DBs or cheat (or sometimes even both) to win. And they still play, and they still find fun in there.
Long ago it was posible to win without that. Slowly it became imposible, only hope was left. Now we (the ones who dont cheat or buy DBs) dont even have hope to win. We just play in our small world where we play not for the win.
To win what? To see random bulker go down? Even if that random bulker has no skills? That's nothing impressing from my point of view. I wanna see action even if it is playing with those of equal force or lower force. And if those are at lower some even go as low just to show off their skills not their power. Like someone using a normal blade vs someone with bad defense just to let skill decide.
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I would say botting in general is like the low road. For whatever reasons, you decide that you can't/don't want to play the game as it was made, and so you will use something to give yourself an advantage over others (maybe not all others, but we'll say a good percentage). In MMO's I think thats bad, simply because of the nature of the game. Time = progress. Be it farming for money, leveling, or whatever. To have something automatically do it for you just destroys the point of whoever works the hardest can be the best. That, in my opinion, is the true core of these games. Now granted, not all games are "balanced" as others, but if I was given the choice to play I probably wouldn't. There's just too many games out there I could play, and these games are especially time consuming.
This should not be confused with cheating, like what happens in regular games. up up down down left right left right a b a b select start is still full of win.
didn't read any of the other thread... but "Time = progress" not in CO... irl money = progress... otherwise u'll never come anywhere close... unless u bot
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To win what? To see random bulker go down? Even if that random bulker has no skills? That's nothing impressing from my point of view. I wanna see action even if it is playing with those of equal force or lower force. And if those are at lower some even go as low just to show off their skills not their power. Like someone using a normal blade vs someone with bad defense just to let skill decide.
There is no skills in this game. Fb/ss skills is a euphemism for low lag and good gfx card.

But even if you lower ur gear to show skill, will you do it in guild war or pk tournaments or while pking? Doubt it.

If you play with your gear dbs beat everything else.
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