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Old 06-17-2008, 14:57   #31
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they only have 2 top player christiano and decko and well quaresma is good but not a top player. holland on the other hand has lots of top players. spain has torres and for some reason the didn't select raśl.. i still feel bad for czech replubic they had a headstart of 2-0 but the turks beat them with 3-2
Sorry but you know nothing. The only 'top players' Holland have are Sneijder, Robben and van Nistelrooy. Spain by far are the strongest team individually with Casillas, Puyol, Ramos, Silva, Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas, Torres and Villa all being 'top players'. Any midfield that can keep Cesc on the bench must be filled with world class players.

Don't count Italy out of this yet. They were highly unlucky to get beaten by Holland and if the linesman actually did his job and flagged offside then the result could have been different.
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Sorry but you know nothing. The only 'top players' Holland have are Sneijder, Robben and van Nistelrooy. Spain by far are the strongest team individually with Casillas, Puyol, Ramos, Silva, Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas, Torres and Villa all being 'top players'. Any midfield that can keep Cesc on the bench must be filled with world class players.

Don't count Italy out of this yet. They were highly unlucky to get beaten by Holland and if the linesman actually did his job and flagged offside then the result could have been different.
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Sorry but you know nothing. The only 'top players' Holland have are Sneijder, Robben and van Nistelrooy. Spain by far are the strongest team individually with Casillas, Puyol, Ramos, Silva, Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas, Torres and Villa all being 'top players'. Any midfield that can keep Cesc on the bench must be filled with world class players.

Don't count Italy out of this yet. They were highly unlucky to get beaten by Holland and if the linesman actually did his job and flagged offside then the result could have been different.
LOL,

u wanna say van persie is not a top player?
u wanna say kuyt is not a top player?

They both walked passed france and italy defenders like they wherent even there and they play for europeans biggest football clubs
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LOL,

u wanna say van persie is not a top player?
u wanna say kuyt is not a top player?

They both walked passed france and italy defenders like they wherent even there and they play for europeans biggest football clubs
Who?
Robin 'I get injured more than Louis Saha' van Persie? or maybe
Dirk 'I have no talent so i'll chase the ball' Kuyt?
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Sorry but you know nothing. The only 'top players' Holland have are Sneijder, Robben and van Nistelrooy. Spain by far are the strongest team individually with Casillas, Puyol, Ramos, Silva, Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas, Torres and Villa all being 'top players'. Any midfield that can keep Cesc on the bench must be filled with world class players.

Don't count Italy out of this yet. They were highly unlucky to get beaten by Holland and if the linesman actually did his job and flagged offside then the result could have been different.
hmm.. were's kuyt and van persie and van der vaart? huntelaar? who knows nothing so ssssh.
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hmm.. were's kuyt and van persie and van der vaart? huntelaar? who knows nothing so ssssh.
These days to be a top class player you have to prove yourself in either the Premier League, La Liga or Serie A. Look at Benzema or Gomez, player of the year and second highest scorer in their leagues respectively. What have they in the Euro's?
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These days to be a top class player you have to prove yourself in either the Premier League, La Liga or Serie A. Look at Benzema or Gomez, player of the year and second highest scorer in their leagues respectively. What have they in the Euro's?
But then again

dirk kuyt at least isnt lazy enough to let others chase the ball and got no talent? thats why he steals balls from other players and passes most defenders. Liverpool pays 14kk euro for a player without talent?

Robin van Persie scores alot also and injuries can happen..
He also passes most defenders without much trouble..

If u would have said that robben has no talent, u are a bit right, he plays to much on his own instead off with the team.

So far i think netherlands scored more goals in this tournament then any other country and i think even the only one without any goals against them?

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But then again

dirk kuyt at least isnt lazy enough to let others chase the ball and got no talent? thats why he steals balls from other players and passes most defenders. Liverpool pays 14kk euro for a player without talent?

Robin van Persie scores alot also and injuries can happen..
He also passes most defenders without much trouble..

If u would have said that robben has no talent, u are a bit right, he plays to much on his own instead off with the team.

So far i think netherlands scored more goals in this tournament then any other country and i think even the only one without any goals against them?

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Yes Liverpool actually do pay that much for junk, I believe Pennant and Crouch cost about that as well. And do you really think 14 million euros is a pricetag for a world class player? Chelsea paid that for a defender in January that has yet to play a match and looks like never will play a match for them with the signing of Bosingwa.

I would agree that van Persie can be good but as soon as he looks like hes come into some form he always gets injured and to be a top class player you have to be consistant.

I never said that Holland didn't play well, all I'm saying is that individually they dont have the quality compared to say Spain or Portugal. Do you think 4 years ago Greece had the best quality team? No.

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If thats the Dutch league then tell me how many teams have reached the knockout stages of the Champions League the past 3 season? Also how many of the starting 11 of the national team actually in the domestic league?
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Yes Liverpool actually do pay that much for junk, I believe Pennant and Crouch cost about that as well. And do you really think 14 million euros is a pricetag for a world class player? Chelsea paid that for a defender in January that has yet to play a match and looks like never will play a match for them with the signing of Bosingwa.

I would agree that van Persie can be good but as soon as he looks like hes come into some form he always gets injured and to be a top class player you have to be consistant.

I never said that Holland didn't play well, all I'm saying is that individually they dont have the quality compared to say Spain or Portugal. Do you think 4 years ago Greece had the best quality team? No.



If thats the Dutch league then tell me how many teams have reached the knockout stages of the Champions League the past 3 season? Also how many of the starting 11 of the national team actually in the domestic league?

see, thats where u screw urself...

Our players are good enough to go to the big teams all across europe. The only players u dont call **** are the ones playing in spain tho.. Thats a bit weird dont u think?

And the reason that all good dutch players dont play in the netherlands? cause we arent stupid enough to pay so much to players, like u spanish suckers do

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see, thats where u screw urself...

Our players are good enough to go to the big teams all across europe. The only players u dont call **** are the ones playing in spain tho.. Thats a bit weird dont u think?

And the reason that all good dutch players dont play in the netherlands? cause we arent stupid enough to pay so much to players, like u spanish suckers do

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No they're not actually. Apart from the Real players who else do you have playing for 'big' European sides?

van der Sar - Looked very shakey for Utd this season.
Boulahrouz - Can't get into the Chelsea first team.
Kuyt - Worst player in the world.
van Persie - Huge interest for Hleb, Adebayor and Fabregas but none for van Persie, strange eh?

Oh and I'm not Spanish
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No they're not actually. Apart from the Real players who else do you have playing for 'big' European sides?

van der Sar - Looked very shakey for Utd this season.
Boulahrouz - Can't get into the Chelsea first team.
Kuyt - Worst player in the world.
van Persie - Huge interest for Hleb, Adebayor and Fabregas but none for van Persie, strange eh?

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No they're not actually. Apart from the Real players who else do you have playing for 'big' European sides?

van der Sar - Looked very shakey for Utd this season.
Boulahrouz - Can't get into the Chelsea first team.
Kuyt - Worst player in the world.
van Persie - Huge interest for Hleb, Adebayor and Fabregas but none for van Persie, strange eh?

Oh and I'm not Spanish
van der sar won united the championsleague..
boulahrouz i havent seen to many attackers passing him in this tournament so far so he plays good enough..
kuyt, i dont know what u got against him?! he fights for ball possesion and scores goals..
Van Persie, maybe no interest for him, but he plays good enough..

and then we come to the point again.. in the group where netherlands was in there has been scored 13 times? off which netherlands scored 9?!

so all players played better then the so called good vice-world champions, the world champion and we beat the team to which they both couldnt get further then a draw

and ur favourite spain just got lucky against greece, they were close to being the only team losing points to greece
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see, thats where u screw urself...

Our players are good enough to go to the big teams all across europe. The only players u dont call **** are the ones playing in spain tho.. Thats a bit weird dont u think?

And the reason that all good dutch players dont play in the netherlands? cause we arent stupid enough to pay so much to players, like u spanish suckers do

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