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Old 07-21-2009, 03:14   #1
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Talismens Suck

What talismans do:
  • most important gear. out weighs everything else, because it's not added to the damage equation
  • every monster does 1 damage even at lvl 15 rb
  • archers rape in pvp
  • trojans can now do the damage a fire tao use to do (fire taos upgraded to 4-hit nados)

These were the roles of each class before talismens:
Archer: plvling + moneymaking
Warrior: tank
Trojan: pvp-tied with fire, unless more skillful
Fire: pvp-tied with tro, unless more skillful at avoiding shots
Water: helper for all classes

These are the roles of the classes now:
Archer: pk-champion + pvp + moneymaking
Warrior: tank
Trojan: pvp, no skill needed to kill, not even herc "skill"
Fire: nearly the same as before, but made bulking fires a lot stronger
Water: the old fire + helping classes
Ninja: new pvp, undetermined

It's not fair that an archer is able to scatter in GW and kill 5 people without even seeing them
It's not fair that trojans can do more magic damage than a fire
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This game caters to archers. They can fly to get through teleporters, while all other classes have to wait for attack stance to end. They can plvl to make loads of money to get their gear good. They can pk. They do the most damage to gw gate and gw pole. They can fly. They're the fastest lvlers to 130


What reason would there be for a player to choose any other class besides archers? The whole point of classes is so the player can determine what role he wants to play and how that affects other people in the game. If one class can fit all those roles then there's no need to have classes at all. Since that completely destroys the whole point of them.

And you guys are bitching about steeds. Give me a break. Steeds would have been bad if there were no talismans. They give you +hp, so what? Turning a bulkers 7-hit to an 8-hit. Doesn't matter, they'll just pot it off. And if a ninja TF's they're finished anyway even if you have 20k hp.

Of course all the archers are going to complain about changing tallys back, they don't want to go bak to being weak. Well get this, why don't you plvl the new-best pvp class to 130, make some money to get good gear AND USE HIM.

If you don't want to be an archer because they cant pk anymore. That means you should have been a fire all along

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What talismans do:
  • most important gear. out weighs everything else, because it's not added to the damage equation
  • every monster does 1 damage even at lvl 15 rb
  • archers rape in pvp
  • trojans can now do the damage a fire tao use to do (fire taos upgraded to 4-hit nados)

These were the roles of each class before talismens:
Archer: plvling + moneymaking
Warrior: tank
Trojan: pvp-tied with fire, unless more skillful
Fire: pvp-tied with tro, unless more skillful at avoiding shots
Water: helper for all classes

These are the roles of the classes now:
Archer: pk-champion + pvp + moneymaking
Warrior: tank
Trojan: pvp, no skill needed to kill, not even herc "skill"
Fire: nearly the same as before, but made bulking fires a lot stronger
Water: the old fire + helping classes
Ninja: new pvp, undetermined

It's not fair that an archer is able to scatter in GW and kill 5 people without even seeing them
It's not fair that trojans can do more magic damage than a fire
(add more if you like)

This game caters to archers. They can fly to get through teleporters, while all other classes have to wait for attack stance to end. They can plvl to make loads of money to get their gear good. They can pk. They do the most damage to gw gate and gw pole. They can fly. They're the fastest lvlers to 130


What reason would there be for a player to choose any other class besides archers? The whole point of classes is so the player can determine what role he wants to play and how that affects other people in the game. If one class can fit all those roles then there's no need to have classes at all. Since that completely destroys the whole point of them.

And you guys are bitching about steeds. Give me a break. Steeds would have been bad if there were no talismans. They give you +hp, so what? Turning a bulkers 7-hit to an 8-hit. Doesn't matter, they'll just pot it off. And if a ninja TF's they're finished anyway even if you have 20k hp.

Of course all the archers are going to complain about changing tallys back, they don't want to go bak to being weak. Well get this, why don't you plvl the new-best pvp class to 130, make some money to get good gear AND USE HIM.

If you don't want to be an archer because they cant pk anymore. That means you should have been a fire all along
Archer naturally have a 30 pct nerf in att. Every class has the bonuses of tally's, a tro with a +4 elite tower makes me hit 1's (My fan is sup+5), the tro only wears full bound super crap, my main gear is sup+3 (minimimum) and sup 2 sdg bow / coat. The talisman crap does affect every class, and as an archer I'd say nerf the ****, lvling in lab is waaaaay to easy now.

About archers getting good gear fast, not really, takes ages of hunting.. Only those that buy DB's to water farm (Which is ilegal? WTF) can start making money fast. And tbh, a tro with a sup+3 fan hits me 1k's, whilst my tower is sup+5 RGG. And your a fail if you can't get a sup+3 fan -.- Pvp is crappy nowadays
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Tested and proven that it doesnt.
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So TQ failed at that too? Meh, heard it does, maybe it does for some people and doesn't for others? Kinda like fog staying fixed after RB, TQ can't do anything right....
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Where is the "no" answer in your poll?
Talismans are ok.
The previous situation wasnt ok, when archers shoot only 50. Now they shoot 250 if u have same + talismans, stop whining, 250 can never kill you.

If you don't have good taliz compared to ur opponent, then thats what its supposed to be - you die!
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Where is the "no" answer in your poll?
Talismans are ok.
The previous situation wasnt ok, when archers shoot only 50. Now they shoot 250 if u have same + talismans, stop whining, 250 can never kill you.

If you don't have good taliz compared to ur opponent, then thats what its supposed to be - you die!
elisa xD its cuz joo are like the best archer is our server xD
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Where is the "no" answer in your poll?
Talismans are ok.
The previous situation wasnt ok, when archers shoot only 50. Now they shoot 250 if u have same + talismans, stop whining, 250 can never kill you.

If you don't have good taliz compared to ur opponent, then thats what its supposed to be - you die!
Hmm, not even true, if I have a sup +5 fan and fight a sup+5 tower tro/war as a decent geared archer, I just hit 1's on them, because then basic gear matters.. A bit, and in such thing they have a lot of def, but without tally's I would pwn them, bc my att would be a lot higher then their def.. Tally's are a fail. (Said by a Sub-top archer of Mercury)
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Also tali un-eq at RB now... ^^
That is DEFINITELY untrue. I just rb'ed my ninja on Sunday and it had all Talismans on him. Wouldn't make sense for Talismans to be unequipped at RB.
What would happen if I totally filled up my inventory? Where would the Talismans go?
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