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Old 07-18-2009, 15:10   #16
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What I want to know is, is there any way to figure out the values of my horse, after using random ones on it for ages? xD
Zoom in, divide the bar up

Filled bar / how many you have total * 255

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What I want to know is, is there any way to figure out the values of my horse, after using random ones on it for ages? xD
yeah there is... send me a PM if u have AIM or some kind of instant messenger and i'll help u out
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Old 07-18-2009, 15:17   #18
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ANYWAYYY... i figured out a way to read the exact color values of whatever horse you have, and doing so, i've discovered that you start off w/ a total of 405 colors (150 + 255)... with each horse you breed into it, the total colors is reduced by 1, so if u have a black horse from itemmall, breed it 5 times, it's total color value will be 400... this leads me to wonder, how in the world are you supposed to get the Flame and Molten horse, if their color totals are over 500?
Golden Horse total is 450, and it has been created, so the -1 rule must have exceptions. :/
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What I want to know is, is there any way to figure out the values of my horse, after using random ones on it for ages? xD
lol me too xD after like 1000000 +1s my color is quite random by now
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Golden Horse total is 450, and it has been created, so the -1 rule must have exceptions. :/
good point... though i've made golden under 450 before... and remember, those have a range, and we're assuming rares have an exact value... i have a feeling now that it's not so much Exact Values for rares, as it is Exact %

for example... golden is

R:150
B:155
G:145

but really what we should be looking for is

R:33.33%
B:34.44%
G:32.22%

so for Blazehoof we should be looking for...
R:33.56%
B:35.37%
G:31.066%

those exact percentages?

if anyone knows ANYONE with ANY of the rare breeds, please let me know so i can check what their horse's color values are... so that way we can figure out if it's the exact Value or exact Percentage . . .
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good point... though i've made golden under 450 before... and remember, those have a range, and we're assuming rares have an exact value... i have a feeling now that it's not so much Exact Values for rares, as it is Exact %

for example... golden is

R:150
B:155
G:145

but really what we should be looking for is

R:33.33%
B:34.44%
G:32.22%

so for Blazehoof we should be looking for...
R:33.56%
B:35.37%
G:31.066%

those exact percentages?

if anyone knows ANYONE with ANY of the rare breeds, please let me know so i can check what their horse's color values are... so that way we can figure out if it's the exact Value or exact Percentage . . .
u mean this? the [Official] Thread has the percentages on page 16/17 in one of oblivinator's posts.

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u mean this? the [Official] Thread has the percentages on page 16/17
no, i mean someone in game (english server obviously XD) so i can check what their exact numbers are
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no, i mean someone in game (english server obviously XD) so i can check what their exact numbers are
noone has it,but obliv worked out the chinese one on page 16/17 of Official
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The issue is rounding at .5 the system might round down but at .6 might round up to the next whole number so you would effectively gain and lose numbers from rounding. If this is the case it would be possible to increase and decrease the total colour. Until this is figured out you wont find an effective way to calculate the special horses.
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The issue is rounding at .5 the system might round down but at .6 might round up to the next whole number so you would effectively gain and lose numbers from rounding. If this is the case it would be possible to increase and decrease the total colour. Until this is figured out you wont find an effective way to calculate the special horses.
no 2 numbers added together then averaged in ne way (in this case .9 and .1) will be equal to more then either number . . . and actually 255*.9 + 255*.1 should = 255, but in fact it equals 254
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The issue is rounding at .5 the system might round down but at .6 might round up to the next whole number so you would effectively gain and lose numbers from rounding. If this is the case it would be possible to increase and decrease the total colour. Until this is figured out you wont find an effective way to calculate the special horses.
Can't you see that Bryan1987s "total color" thing is pointless and it doesn't work at all? Those R B and G colors are totally different thing and you cannot sum them up. Same as you can't tell the "total size" of someone by summing up his height, weight and foot size..

If you wanna carry on the "total color" thing - go to Bryan1987s thread. Don't spam here.
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Can't you see that Bryan1987s "total color" thing is pointless and it doesn't work at all? Those R B and G colors are totally different thing and you cannot sum them up. Same as you can't tell the "total size" of someone by summing up his height, weight and foot size..

If you wanna carry on the "total color" thing - go to Bryan1987s thread. Don't spam here.
*sigh* learn some math... if u'r taking averages between 2 things, you can't go higher then what you already have... in other words... if you have a total of 405 w/ another of 405

THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY to average it out in ANY way to make it any higher then 405... try it, try any way u won't be able to do it, hence anything with a total of over 405 isn't possible to reach... period

(405*.4) + (405*.6) = 405

(200*.7+100*.7+105*.7) + (100*.3+200*.3+105*.3) =
(140+70+73.5) + (30+60+31.5) = 404 (because TQ uses the Floor() function to round 73.5 and 31.5 down)

try any other combo, u will NEVER get over 405
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Can't you see that Bryan1987s "total color" thing is pointless and it doesn't work at all? Those R B and G colors are totally different thing and you cannot sum them up. Same as you can't tell the "total size" of someone by summing up his height, weight and foot size..

If you wanna carry on the "total color" thing - go to Bryan1987s thread. Don't spam here.
his thread was major fail, thus the change of threads to prove his point
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his thread was major fail, thus the change of threads to prove his point
no, the point of my thread was to show the color values... but i hadn't noticed that someone put one up already, so i abandoned my thread to discuss it here... still doesn't deny the fact that to get a total number of colors above 405 is not possible currently
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no, the point of my thread was to show the color values... but i hadn't noticed that someone put one up already, so i abandoned my thread to discuss it here... still doesn't deny the fact that to get a total number of colors above 405 is not possible currently
I see your point now...

When I calculated the Golden Breed (B+M+W+5M+3W) using my 0,9+0,1 formula it came out that it has: R:138 B:130 G:136 (let's say it's acceptable for golden steed) which gives 404 in total.

So, as long as we could be able to make those regular steeds (which rgb sum is over 405), we could never get RARE STEEDS which rgb values have to be exact...
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