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Old 11-29-2009, 11:54   #1
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is it just me or dose it look like bp counts

i keep doing low damage to someone with high battle power i had better gear
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Old 11-29-2009, 12:00   #2
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wudnt surprise me if tq did something stupid like that
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Old 11-29-2009, 13:28   #3
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i keep doing low damage to someone with high battle power i had better gear
If your gear was better, you'd have higher BP yes?
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Old 11-29-2009, 13:55   #4
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If your gear was better, you'd have higher BP yes?
maybe he's lower lvl
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Old 11-29-2009, 14:16   #5
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There's more factors not mentioned here... Are you an archer? Tao? Were you lower level? Because archers don't do jack without talismans and if their boots are decent you will do even less. Taos as well don't do insane amounts of damage without talismans, if their ears are decent you will do even less. If your lower level then it also would matter on your attack/mattack vs their def/mdef (unless your an archer then it's pretty much all in their boots). The fact you have better gear but they have more bp says to me your lower level then them, there's your answer.

Some people have just gotten too used to 2.0 or never played 1.0 (Not pointing fingers what so ever or saying you haven't played old co just stating a fact.) and forget the basics of the game due to TQ ruining it.
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Old 11-29-2009, 14:32   #6
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wat he said.

and also when you get +3 or +4 armor neck or headgears, your defense is now significantly high. as in old v1 a full +4 set or even +3 meant u could rock sox. So if that person had better + def gears than your ring and weapon, you wouldnt do squat even if you were the same lvl.
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Get two characters, with a little difference in levels or interchangeable gear that won't affect the defender's defense, or the attacker's attack. (An example being having a level 90 wear an elite poleaxe so that his potency jumps 6, and have him be completely naked otherwise. Test a character who's level 90 in normals, or 90 potency with other **** on [punching on a character with strength would be preferred, since it's a figure with the same min/max instead of a large range as provided by weapons] and then test the same attack but after dropping the defender's potency by removing the weapon.)

If the number differs, then yes, potency affects it.

For stupid people:

- Magic attack and defense has a lot of variables that you will probably never understand. Stick with melee for testing this.

- Arrows are not melee.

- If the test character has such low strength that he hits only 5 damage, 10 damage, or something ridiculously low, it's possible you won't see a difference even if there is. Use higher level characters.

- Make sure the item you use for potency isn't blessed.

- Horses will affect what you hit, so make sure it's naked.



Edit: What I would like to see tested, however, is whether or not skills that were affected by potency (or battle power as the young people say) on CO 2.0 are affected on the Classic servers. Fog is gone, but Poison Star and Archer Bane still exist, which both had a miss rate depending on how much higher the target's potency was.

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Old 11-30-2009, 04:03   #8
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The minimum damage thing that was introduced with potency is gone at least. I haven't seen any pvping where it looked like potency was affecting the damage.
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It seems the bp realy affect the pvp, i noticed this to.

As archer at lvl 45 i was hitting another archer lvl 50+ for 36-40+ dmg while he was hitting me for 20-25+

He was full normal items while me i had the uni 1s bow, uni neky and rest of the ref crap items which u get free.

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1- i had higher bp then him
2- i had lvl 10 bots (he should rape me if there the bp won't affect the pvp)
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It seems the bp realy affect the pvp, i noticed this to.

As archer at lvl 45 i was hitting another archer lvl 50+ for 36-40+ dmg while he was hitting me for 20-25+

He was full normal items while me i had the uni 1s bow, uni neky and rest of the ref crap items which u get free.

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1- i had higher bp then him
2- i had lvl 10 bots (he should rape me if there the bp won't affect the pvp)
Honestly that information is useless because it's incomplete.

Your potency as you said it would be 57 max (bow = 3*2, necky = 2, ears/ring/armor/boots = 4, so 45 + 12 = 57)

If he's 50+ he could have been 50, or he could have been 60, 70 or even 80. (Without exacts I assume you were guessing based on looking at his gear.)

Did you check what kind of arrows/ring/bow/boots he had on? The level, not the quality. Did one of you have a horse? An attack potion or defense potion clicked within the past hour?
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Honestly that information is useless because it's incomplete.

Your potency as you said it would be 57 max (bow = 3*2, necky = 2, ears/ring/armor/boots = 4, so 45 + 12 = 57)

If he's 50+ he could have been 50, or he could have been 60, 70 or even 80. (Without exacts I assume you were guessing based on looking at his gear.)

Did you check what kind of arrows/ring/bow/boots he had on? The level, not the quality. Did one of you have a horse? An attack potion or defense potion clicked within the past hour?
i said lvl 50+ cos i don't remember the exact lvl , it was betwen 50 and 55.
He had all items normal for his lvl, lvl 50 ring etc.
He didn't had horse or any + on items and the arrows were same as mine, the lvl 32 ones.

Anyway somebody else can do the test. When i will be at home i will do a test with everything is need.
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Honestly that information is useless because it's incomplete.

Your potency as you said it would be 57 max (bow = 3*2, necky = 2, ears/ring/armor/boots = 4, so 45 + 12 = 57)

If he's 50+ he could have been 50, or he could have been 60, 70 or even 80. (Without exacts I assume you were guessing based on looking at his gear.)

Did you check what kind of arrows/ring/bow/boots he had on? The level, not the quality. Did one of you have a horse? An attack potion or defense potion clicked within the past hour?

Wait till the first pure fire uses dodge.. assuming that skill still exists? Archers are going to cry on forums and proceed to make a trojan... with +9 boots.

You're trying to teach them the old ways Jada, it may be too hard.

On a side note, what's up dude.. it's been a long time. Hope all is well
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Wait till the first pure fire uses dodge.. assuming that skill still exists? Archers are going to cry on forums and proceed to make a trojan... with +9 boots.

You're trying to teach them the old ways Jada, it may be too hard.

On a side note, what's up dude.. it's been a long time. Hope all is well
Yeah if dodge works it will be an advantage to me. I'm going not just fire-fire but pure in hopes of the pure skills thread being of any use.
The skill still exists, was screwed up by talismans on 2.0 style, but it will be a bit screwed as in it's no longer original to pure fire. A rebirth path with Ninja in it (possibly fire-nin-nin) still gets dodge.
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Yeah if dodge works it will be an advantage to me. I'm going not just fire-fire but pure in hopes of the pure skills thread being of any use.
The skill still exists, was screwed up by talismans on 2.0 style, but it will be a bit screwed as in it's no longer original to pure fire. A rebirth path with Ninja in it (possibly fire-nin-nin) still gets dodge.
Enjoy your dodge, Ill enjoy lvl 129 boots which will have pretty much the same effect.
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