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Old 06-08-2010, 17:40   #1
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How to beat a fire

Pretty sure penetration is capped at 30%
So that means if u had level 2 level 4or5 counteraction (gets rid of pene) + waterflow you'd have over 30% counteraction effectively nuling it. btw they can only go on armor and necky. Then you could put 2 lvl 5 detox on boots and headgear + L9 apoth and have 100 % detox. Then your waterflow which adds +8% immunity + L9 chi master would get you 23% immunity (so only like 1/10 of time = s.crits).

Then for the trojans/ninjas if u had 2 sword ds's and a ring ds and L9 martial artist and lvl 5 crits in ring/weps you'd have 54% crit rate. Meaning you could 1hit fires.

And that's how you beat a fire Have fun doing that, because it's just about impossible
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im pritty sure NOTHING gets rid of pene.


now u can proove me wrong or u loose
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Counteraction only get rids of breakthrough, if I'm not mistaken.
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i dont need to
if you want to know, do it yourself
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u can counteract a fires crit strike. and breakthrough. but u cannot stop a fires penetration.
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maximum crit you can get is 41 i think.

ring = 6
2x 1h = 6*2 = 12
martial artist = 15
2 swords ds = 2*3 = 6
ring ds = 2
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u can counteract a fires crit strike. and breakthrough. but u cannot stop a fires penetration.
so then what's immunity for?
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so then what's immunity for?
Immunity Reduces the target's chances of activating Critical Strike and Skill Critical Strike.

Counteraction Make the target can't exceed Max Attack. = EG: this stops Breakthrough..

the reason penetration is so overpowerd is that it decreases your magic defence by up to around 40 percent.. and THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.
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so then what's immunity for?
immunity stops skill crit strike and crit strike
counteraction stops breakthrough.
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maximum crit you can get is 41 i think.

ring = 6
2x 1h = 6*2 = 12
martial artist = 15
2 swords ds = 2*3 = 6
ring ds = 2
Clap Clap -----> You Win

41 percent is max CS and thats with 2 swords for the added 6 percent.

Also Counteraction, and I have not tested it, is for piercing attacks and melee if I am not mistaken so it has no use with penetration and just nerfs Breakthrough.

On a side note -----to Skyscan ----> how did you test that penetration is capped at 30 percent?????

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immunity stops skill crit strike and crit strike
counteraction stops breakthrough.
penetration has the same description as breakthrough. it just works differently. I don't see why it wouldn't block both like immunity does
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penetration has the same description as breakthrough. it just works differently. I don't see why it wouldn't block both like immunity does
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How is,
Penetration-Reduces the target's Magical Defense, which will increase Magical damage the target takes,
not exceeding the maximum attack?
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Penetration-Reduces the target's Magical Defense, which will increase Magical damage the target takes,
not exceeding the maximum attack?
its not affecting your attack at all, its only effecting the targets defense
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