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Old 06-01-2010, 14:50   #1
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This new mining really is something but is really not much

In the old mining you could get a supergem. Ir a notmal fury. Worth several dbs. And the highest equipment was only +5-+6.

The prizes you get now are tiny compared.

And the pk system then was better, you did not get pk points for killing red names.

And the fights were fairer, now many pk ers take 1s. Talismans for the loss of fairness.

And many attack with fog just to be jerks,Cant stop the jerks from fogging. Its messed up.

Mining, Its messed up.
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Old 06-01-2010, 15:16   #2
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what do you expect? Tq are the pro's at destroying their own game.

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Old 06-01-2010, 15:22   #3
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I agree but not much can be done...I guess just be happy we can get a few more gems or a met...i've gotten only a kylin gem :/
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what do you expect? Tq are the pro's at destroying their own game.

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good gameplay < MONEHHHHHHHHHH

Heard that.
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Old 06-01-2010, 21:01   #5
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Quick question, Doc. Since you know so much about it, that is....

Exactly where does it say you can't get Super Gems, now? Or how more items that can be found is a bad thing? Or that a noob miner could ever defend themselves against a PKer?

I'll give you the red name thing, though, but I can't really see why it would affect your mining..... And if you want to stop dying or getting fogged, use a better character to mine.
Also, Fog QQ.
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Quick question, Doc. Since you know so much about it, that is....

Exactly where does it say you can't get Super Gems, now? Or how more items that can be found is a bad thing? Or that a noob miner could ever defend themselves against a PKer?

I'll give you the red name thing, though, but I can't really see why it would affect your mining..... And if you want to stop dying or getting fogged, use a better character to mine.
Also, Fog QQ.
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Let me ask you one thing, Hemp.

Can you say without a doubt, that this game is a better game now, than say, 5 years ago when I first started playing?
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Quick question, Doc. Since you know so much about it, that is....

Exactly where does it say you can't get Super Gems, now? Get a super gem.. so what..... they are now worth less than a db. And a db today buys less of a characters top items than it used to, way way way way less..

Or how more items that can be found is a bad thing? Find more items that are of less value, the items in total are still less value.

Or that a noob miner could ever defend themselves against a PKer? talisman destroyed a lot of pvp, as did 2nd reborn. Deny as much as you wish, many if us saw a more fair pvp
I'll give you the red name thing, though, but I can't really see why it would affect your mining..... And if you want to stop dying or getting fogged, use a better character to mine.
Also, Fog QQ.
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Old 06-01-2010, 21:57   #9
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my thoughts

if you were here in 2003 Hemp, the game was much funner, drop rates were like 10 times better, mining was much better as well. There would be no need for bots and cheating if drop rates, mining rates, socket rates was much better. Back in 2003 you could get several normals, and refines and even a super gem in couple hours of mining. Most people would continue mining or hunting after 15-30 minutes because it was profitable as well as fun seeing a super dragon gem or refined gem frequently.

Dragonballs as it is rediculas, back in the day a refined gem worth be the same as a db in value, 1 super gem would be valued as 4 dbs, because there was no cp, lottery, etc, now with cp, and lottery the prices are rediculas low and there's no reason and need to play the game, because everyone has the same gears, and everyone is now 2nd rb and maxed out, because no one needs anything, and isn't motivated to work on there gears, or play the game, It shouldn't be able talismans or how much money you can spend on how strong you are, it should be based on all gears. I would like TQ to balance the PVP out by making necklaces,armor,boots,etc stronger then talismans by 50% as well as add more maps, mining, hunting where pkp is not allowed.

My 130 2nd rb warrior who has good gears and talismans do 1 damage and i get hit in 1 hit, to an 132 archer just because they have 1 or 2 extra sockets in there talismans, where only high spent bulkers or botters can afford.. That in my opinion is unbalanced, I spent $300 USD on the game, but I don't have a chance to compete against someone who spent $3,000 USD, No matter what you do someone who played for 7 years should easily be able to out compete someone who spent $3,000 on a game instantly.

I know you have to make money somehow, But if you made the game more balanced You would see more people buying dbs because it's actually fair... Really would be nice if TQ would increase super items and +1 stones or perhaps make a few non pk maps for mining and hunting, for those who don't like PVP or make it where peace mode means you can't be pked or pk anyone and you can't change it, or it takes 1-2 days to change modes.
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People always say the good old days, but the past is the past. I try not to say too much about the previous days of CO, since most of what I have to go on is in history books or hearsay. But I don't quite fall precisely into line with some opinions about comparing the two.
But none of it actually matters now, as we're in the present, not the past. There have been quite a few pretty nice changes that have been made to the game recently, and even you have said so.
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mining a super thunder/glory gem today would be comparable to mining a SDG, SRG or SPG 6 years ago.
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mining a super thunder/glory gem today would be comparable to mining a SDG, SRG or SPG 6 years ago.
Well then I guess you're happy that you can?
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god stop complaining already. everyone asked for mining to return, we got mining back and y'all still QQing.
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2 things that cause the downfall

1. Shopping Mall
A lot of items can be had from shopping mall. A bulker once told me, all i need to do is sit in market/tc, I can make a 2nd rb full 2 soc +8. Why? Because there is unlimited supply from shopping mall. You can 1 soc, 2 soc using dbs. This cause a lot of unbalance. All the cps that this bulker spent goes into the game and being absorbed into the system with nothing return to your regular (non-bulker or occasional db buyer) player. This case the gap between bulker and regular player to be bigger and bigger

Long time ago, you need to hunt for +1 items. Everyone knows how hard it is to make a +7. U hunt, u buy in market, u pick up every loot hoping that it is a +1. When you buy +1 item from another regular player, he gets the gold, then he use that gold to better his gear. So everyone get a bit richer when u go hunting or do marketing. Because the gold goes from 1 player to another, it remains in the system. The gap between bulker and regular wont be as big.

2. Battle Power/Talisman
Before bp, a 1st rb full 1 soc tro can kill anyone. Its the skills of the player that matters. You train hard in fb/ss, just so u can do combo shots to kill another stronger player before he can pot. Everyone has a chance to kill a strong guy if you have the skills. While it did make sense, a lot of people complain about I am a 2nd rb full 2 soc archer, why was I 1 hit by a lvl 110 tro? Because of this, battle power gets introduced. If your bp is more than 5 bp lower, you can never 1 hit the other guy. Now that full 2 soc archer is happy and with strong talisman, he kill that tro easily.

So, with the first reason making the power gap bigger and bigger, couple with second reason, people get pissed. If u are a non-bulker, u have to work really really hard...hoping that 200 +1 you hunted for 2 weeks is of the type you need.

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