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Old 10-06-2010, 15:28   #1
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So I want my water to be a tank...

What combination of subclasses and dragonsouls/martial souls should I use?

For subclasses I assume:
Max Apothecary (72% Detox)
Max Chi Master (15% Immunity)

What about Dragonsouls?

Some other questions:
Does Immunity effect magic damage or just melee?
Are the artifact attributes capped at a certain percentage?
Is there a point to going over 90% m-def?
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Old 10-06-2010, 16:24   #2
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depends of ur server if there are more fires or tros hunting you

in volcano... our team water is full 2soc stg -7s loveforever ring -7 +7s/+8s and +12 wep.

no 1 can 1hit you, if ur good player, u wont get 2 fb hits in a row.

so i would go for the magic def dragon souls.
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What combination of subclasses and dragonsouls/martial souls should I use?

For subclasses I assume:
Max Apothecary (72% Detox)
Max Chi Master (15% Immunity)

What about Dragonsouls?

Some other questions:
Does Immunity effect magic damage or just melee?
Are the artifact attributes capped at a certain percentage?
Is there a point to going over 90% m-def?

I don't play on 2.0 much anymore but I'd suggest maxing detox (it's pretty easy anyway, it requires the least amount of points). Immunity is useful but it's a ***** to level. I'd suggest using a whirlpool armor over a waterflow (and azure hat instead of the other one) unless you intend on doing some serious damage by zapping people.

For your other questions, immunity doesn't affect damage directly, it affects how often you can get crit. If your immunity % is higher than your opponent's crit strike % (including skill crit) then he/she won't ever be able to crit you.
As far as I know artifact attributes aren't capped, which is why fires are OP now.
And yes there is a point to going over 90% m-def, since fires can have insane amounts of penetration, I'd highly suggest it. My tank water has 124% m-def and it's STILL not enough.
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Old 10-06-2010, 20:43   #5
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I don't play on 2.0 much anymore but I'd suggest maxing detox (it's pretty easy anyway, it requires the least amount of points). Immunity is useful but it's a ***** to level. I'd suggest using a whirlpool armor over a waterflow (and azure hat instead of the other one) unless you intend on doing some serious damage by zapping people.

For your other questions, immunity doesn't affect damage directly, it affects how often you can get crit. If your immunity % is higher than your opponent's crit strike % (including skill crit) then he/she won't ever be able to crit you.
As far as I know artifact attributes aren't capped, which is why fires are OP now.
And yes there is a point to going over 90% m-def, since fires can have insane amounts of penetration, I'd highly suggest it. My tank water has 124% m-def and it's STILL not enough.
Thanks for your post.

The specific suggestions are useful.

With your water having 124% m-def, is it not enough because m-def is capped at 90% so your extra m-def is not recognized?
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Thanks for your post.

The specific suggestions are useful.

With your water having 124% m-def, is it not enough because m-def is capped at 90% so your extra m-def is not recognized?
If the extra magic defense is coming from refineries then it counters penetration. If not, then it is not recognized.
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Thanks for your post.

The specific suggestions are useful.

With your water having 124% m-def, is it not enough because m-def is capped at 90% so your extra m-def is not recognized?
It caps at 90%, but say the fire has 40 percent penetration, then she only has 84% from 124%. So yes it caps at 90%, but if the tao has penetration it's your current - their penetration so.... yeah.

If for example the tao only had 20 percent penetration then she would have 104% m-def meaning yes, 14 percent is not recognized.

Hope that made sense.
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So what m-def refineries are available?

I know theres phase 5 m-def for bag and bracelet which gives 24% total.

Are there any more?
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Nope. It's only available for bag/bracelet & necky/ring.
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