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Old 09-24-2010, 01:35   #1
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Is programming your keyboard considered a bot/hack by TQ?

I was wondering, since TQ removed the pot-while-you-hold-down-the-key feature, is it ok to program your keyboard, so when you hold down the key, it pots fast? A friend said it might be considered autopot. Here's a pic of what I mean.
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He said the same thing to me. Apparently killing him in jail then picking up his pots is autohunt....
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I was wondering, since TQ removed the pot-while-you-hold-down-the-key feature, is it ok to program your keyboard, so when you hold down the key, it pots fast? A friend said it might be considered autopot. Here's a pic of what I mean.
Since it's a macro... i think it's also illegal.
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Old 09-24-2010, 03:36   #3
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That's what I started to think about too, but it's a keyboard macro not a special program, perhaps it's ok. Had a fire zap me with 5k and 10k crits, I was using mil.ginsengs and died when I went through full inv of those. I had 14,7k hp or something like that.
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~Cha°S~ speaks to Curiosity: aouto hunt open lol
He said the same thing to me. Apparently killing him in jail then picking up his pots is autohunt....

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Same keyboard :P


Its such a finger/dust magnet.


No idea if its marco.


Doubt it.
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I was wondering, since TQ removed the pot-while-you-hold-down-the-key feature, is it ok to program your keyboard, so when you hold down the key, it pots fast? A friend said it might be considered autopot. Here's a pic of what I mean.
Cur, yes it does, its a program out of conquer, so yes its considered a bot/hack.

Anyways what does it do?
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Same keyboard :P


Its such a finger/dust magnet.


No idea if its marco.


Doubt it.
It says it's a macro on it.
Also: auto-click jail, which has been removed since you now go to botjail, was meant for click macros. A click macro imitates a mouse/keyboard. It has high chances of it being detected as a macro.
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It says it's a macro on it.
Also: auto-click jail, which has been removed since you now go to botjail, was meant for click macros. A click macro imitates a mouse/keyboard. It has high chances of it being detected as a macro.
Actually, the click-jail was used to a specific type of macros. This keyboard "macro" that the thread starter is using isn't that kind of macro. The click-jail system was made to prevent so called "background clickers", i.e. an auto skill leveler, auto stigger, etc. that would click on certain things without the CO window being in the foreground/the active window.
I believe the click-jail was mainly made to prevent ScriptVessel.
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Actually, the click-jail was used to a specific type of macros. This keyboard "macro" that the thread starter is using isn't that kind of macro. The click-jail system was made to prevent so called "background clickers", i.e. an auto skill leveler, auto stigger, etc. that would click on certain things without the CO window being in the foreground/the active window.
I believe the click-jail was mainly made to prevent ScriptVessel.
Well they said any macro isn't allowed. Until someone from TQ says it's harmless, there might be a risk of getting botjailed for it.
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Cur, yes it does, its a program out of conquer, so yes its considered a bot/hack.

Anyways what does it do?
It's a program for my keyboard. Kinda like new mouses have programmable key functions. I could change the "Q" key into "F1" key, so when hitting "Q", I can use pots if they are under "F1". It let's me pots while just holding down the key, no need to hit it if I want to pot.

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It says it's a macro on it.
Also: auto-click jail, which has been removed since you now go to botjail, was meant for click macros. A click macro imitates a mouse/keyboard. It has high chances of it being detected as a macro.
Yeah, it's a macro, but still it isn't actually some special prog meant for it, just the features on my keyboard.

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Actually, the click-jail was used to a specific type of macros. This keyboard "macro" that the thread starter is using isn't that kind of macro. The click-jail system was made to prevent so called "background clickers", i.e. an auto skill leveler, auto stigger, etc. that would click on certain things without the CO window being in the foreground/the active window.
I believe the click-jail was mainly made to prevent ScriptVessel.
Yeah, but I don't think you need to hold the key down for autopots and that kind of marcros, I still have to hold down the F1 key.


I think I should contact helpdesk or... CindyZ? I mean, if I'd change the back/forward mouse buttons as "F1" and "F2", it would kinda be the same, no?
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well I'm not sure if the program would be able to do this but imagine this esenario.

youprobram the "W" key on your keybord to work as right klick, and then you make the program cicle the key when you press and hold.

that will be a problem since basically you'll have a caracter in autoclick.

sure is very differente an autoclick where you really have to aime to what you want to attack and an autoclick where it's aimmed by itself.
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Just noticed, if I hold down "F1" key and ctrl, then let go of "F1" it still keeps potting, seems suspicious though. Still hoping it not illegal, it would be vital for me in tonight's elite PKT.
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It's a program for my keyboard. Kinda like new mouses have programmable key functions. I could change the "Q" key into "F1" key, so when hitting "Q", I can use pots if they are under "F1". It let's me pots while just holding down the key, no need to hit it if I want to pot.
Oh, So its like a major hot-key for everything huh, Well best thing to do, is ask the GM/Help Desk dude.
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Just notices, if I hold down "F1" key and ctrl, then let go of "F1" it still keeps potting, seems suspicious though. Still hoping it not illegal, it would be vital for me in tonight's elite PKT.
It really just depends how it sends the input. How my mouse's programmable functoins work, they put the input in the kernal so no application can tell the difference between what it put in and what I'm actually pressing. My old mouse puts it in after the system gets done with the input. So all the applications but the several that are OS will see it. It is so you can press ctrl+alt+del and not have task manager come up. The application can easily tell just by which function they call to get the input. I'd assume TQ is using directinput since they use d3d, so it is a tossup of which function they using to get the input.

If you ask any TQ employee they will say it is a macro therefor illegal even if they cannot detect it.
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In TQ's eyes, any program that gives a player an unfair advantage over others is illegal. Simple as that.
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In TQ's eyes, any program that gives a player an unfair advantage over others is illegal. Simple as that.
Haha, totally true, if I pay a company 100 USD for an amazo keyboard and use this, it's illegal, if I pay TQ 100 USD to use the keyboard, it's ok.

With this, I should survive even 3 consecutive critical strikes, from maxed fires, it would be 3 10-11k zaps. The thing I won't survive is a critical + luckytime, that would 1 hit me
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