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Thank you for the feedback, the game will keep updating all the time, that's a trend, I will forward your idea to our staff for consideration.
It's not that changes are bad, it's that you guys keep adding money schemes to the game. If you add these changes make them to where they won't be upgraded by stones or with anything you can buy in the shopping mall etc for at least 2 years. Also don't make it based on 100% luck, sure you can make the upgrade items drop at a small rate but not impossible, kind of like the met drop rate or something or just have them upgraded by killing some monsters manually no auto hunting etc. Make it take merit to achieve not swipe a credit card. This is what keeps people playing games, progression through effort. This won't happen though, because this game is 100% a cash grab now. This is why I play black desert, it may have a **** RNG upgrade system, but at least there is a lot to do and different ways to progress besides swipe swipe to keep up in the tiniest.

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They need to milk the few last bulkers , so if you want to be the top dog = bulk , simple like that.
This is exactly what's happening. It's not worth it honestly I sold my unbound gear and just casually play at this point with the upgrades they keep making its just meh ** it. Not going to pay to keep up what's the point.
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They need to milk the few last bulkers , so if you want to be the top dog = bulk , simple like that.
Yup this tops it though, three new things at once which are probably all gonna be a big moneymaker for TQ. They make it more and more tempting to quit this game.
Classes are getting boring, events are getting boring, skills are getting boring. Basicly all thats left is upgrading my char and to do that I need to spend alot of money or its useless. lol. So basicly the only thing keeping me in the game is the people i chat with.
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Yup this tops it though, three new things at once which are probably all gonna be a big moneymaker for TQ. They make it more and more tempting to quit this game.
Classes are getting boring, events are getting boring, skills are getting boring. Basicly all thats left is upgrading my char and to do that I need to spend alot of money or its useless. lol. So basicly the only thing keeping me in the game is the people i chat with.
Well that's why they're making new stuff. Everything is boring to you so they have to make new stuff for you to do duhhhhh
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Well that's why they're making new stuff. Everything is boring to you so they have to make new stuff for you to do duhhhhh
They make it boring with new stuff Thye ruined the fun team events with attaks that require no skillls (melee waters ruined stpk/tpk). They ruined 1v1 and CTF by making skills which make u unbeatable (pirates can't get hit 70%, if not more, of a match, which basicly means you have to run away most of the match wihtout being able to do anything) and I can't wait for the first fire to be maxed out and hitting every1 30k (even with STGs). Nothing requires skill anymore and its because TQ keepps adding **** to make everything "easier for the bulker". 90% of the updates they do to the game are crap.

The events were the only fun things left before melee waters (and epic pirates).
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Well that's why they're making new stuff. Everything is boring to you so they have to make new stuff for you to do duhhhhh
See, if this were the case fine. The thing is they won't give you any real way to improve. It's going to just be split progress between deciding to +, do perfection, or upgrade your runes and now that new **** with your +stones you get from deity. Which also isn't worth farming after you get the luck pts done for the day. IF they add a way to actually play the game and progress then sure by all means go for it. They won't, so it really doesn't make it "new stuff" to do just new gear that needs to be swipe upgraded.
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They make it boring with new stuff Thye ruined the fun team events with attaks that require no skillls (melee waters ruined stpk/tpk). They ruined 1v1 and CTF by making skills which make u unbeatable (pirates can't get hit 70%, if not more, of a match, which basicly means you have to run away most of the match wihtout being able to do anything) and I can't wait for the first fire to be maxed out and hitting every1 30k (even with STGs). Nothing requires skill anymore and its because TQ keepps adding **** to make everything "easier for the bulker". 90% of the updates they do to the game are crap.

The events were the only fun things left before melee waters (and epic pirates).
Ha that's where you're wrong I have the maxed out fire. and he hits 70k damage to maxed out accounts. 30k? miss me with that weak ****
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Ha that's where you're wrong I have the maxed out fire. and he hits 70k damage to maxed out accounts. 30k? miss me with that weak ****
can u tell to me what are the effect of new blue rune rise of taoist at high level??

how much damage, CD and MAX HP at level 27??
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Ha that's where you're wrong I have the maxed out fire. and he hits 70k damage to maxed out accounts. 30k? miss me with that weak ****
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It's not that changes are bad, it's that you guys keep adding money schemes to the game. If you add these changes make them to where they won't be upgraded by stones or with anything you can buy in the shopping mall etc for at least 2 years. Also don't make it based on 100% luck, sure you can make the upgrade items drop at a small rate but not impossible, kind of like the met drop rate or something or just have them upgraded by killing some monsters manually no auto hunting etc. Make it take merit to achieve not swipe a credit card. This is what keeps people playing games, progression through effort. This won't happen though, because this game is 100% a cash grab now. This is why I play black desert, it may have a **** RNG upgrade system, but at least there is a lot to do and different ways to progress besides swipe swipe to keep up in the tiniest.



This is exactly what's happening. It's not worth it honestly I sold my unbound gear and just casually play at this point with the upgrades they keep making its just meh ** it. Not going to pay to keep up what's the point.
The main problem is they make it impossible for new players to come in.

A new players need:
Level 140
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They need so many pieces of gear
They need souls for these gears
They need all the sub classes
They need to donate
The need to do Jiang
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Starting the game from 0 is almost impossible.
Rxin you guys aren't trying to improve the game or you would give newer people a chance to play.

You guys make more money on server transfer than probably any other aspect of the game.
You guys should focus on improving the game and if you need to keep revenue, release a lot more cosmetic items that are worth buying.
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The main problem is they make it impossible for new players to come in.

A new players need:
Level 140
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They need so many pieces of gear
They need souls for these gears
They need all the sub classes
They need to donate
The need to do Jiang
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They need to do Inner Power
They need to do Runes

Starting the game from 0 is almost impossible.
Rxin you guys aren't trying to improve the game or you would give newer people a chance to play.

You guys make more money on server transfer than probably any other aspect of the game.
You guys should focus on improving the game and if you need to keep revenue, release a lot more cosmetic items that are worth buying.
Yeah, it's honestly pretty ****. They legit need to make noob servers like I said where you can't buy more than 15$ in cps a month and are given 2 years to compete before you get booted. No trading Cps/+items etc so that people dont just trade gears off to keep farming that then transfer out. (free transfer should be given after the 1-2 year point to any server.

Again, like I said there's no way to progress in this game after you hit 2nd rb 140 (which is just basically doing the dailies + auto hunting/clan if you're lucky). Chi/Jiang is all luck, gear progression is based on getting luck with lotto/slots or REALLY slow. They just need to make monsters in the normal zones drop +1/2/3 stones etc bound/unbound cps unbound should be at a low rate but yeah. Give people a way to progress rather than hit the luck point cap of 10 a day then logging. It's not worth farming the bosses people do it but really not that great unless you have a lvl 9 boss killer full +12 char.

As for revenue, transfers are fine and also the cosmetics they should make cool accessories etc but sell for $ only in their new shop and for reasonable prices like 15-20$ for a good garm and 5-10$ per weapon skins but only unlocks it on that character not tradeable (all -1 ofc). Not this 100+$ worth of CPS. If they were 15$ cash and the game was playable, I might slightly drop money on this game again.

TLDR; Make it to where people can progress playing the game otherwise it's not worth it to spend more than like 30 mins tops on the game because then you can't do anything.
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The main problem is they make it impossible for new players to come in.

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They need to do Runes

Starting the game from 0 is almost impossible.
Rxin you guys aren't trying to improve the game or you would give newer people a chance to play.

You guys make more money on server transfer than probably any other aspect of the game.
You guys should focus on improving the game and if you need to keep revenue, release a lot more cosmetic items that are worth buying.
You hit a lot of great points.

Players on servers are declining. Trying to get new players to join is impossible. It's obvious TQ is only catering to their current clientele, or so we think. I'm not even sure that they check their sales projections. Maybe they do and all that appear are egy pounds. Or perhaps their business model works well in China where, correct me if I'm wrong, is a paid subscription. Where new updates like this one would make sense and wouldn't hurt their Chinese consumers. Here on USA/EU servers these so called "updates" hurt us. We pay into each one.

I can't even begin to talk about how hard it is to get new people to play the game. I'm not sure how things are in other countries, but here in America, it's impossible to get a group of your friends to even touch this thing. I've tried, and all of them call me insane for having to spend so much time, years, just to get one character up to par with everyone else; at end game. Not to mention the fact that I, just like the rest of you, dropped a large amount of cash on this game. Telling them that is like walking into a house engulfed with fire! They would never do such a thing. So what do you do? Try building, even buying, accounts for new comers (irl friends?) to use. That's just money dropped and wasted. And the player population will continue to decrease.

honestly, if someone just made a game similar to conquer with improved graphics and better player to dev interactions, then tq and netdragon would be history.

idk.. that's just my 2 cents.
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honestly, if someone just made a game similar to conquer with improved graphics and better player to dev interactions, then tq and netdragon would be history.
This is what brings me to my point about lost ark. I really do feel when that game drops co's Western Release will die. Their Chinese one may survive but this one is going to go poof or at least dwindle to the point of needing lots of server merges.
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This is what brings me to my point about lost ark. I really do feel when that game drops co's Western Release will die. Their Chinese one may survive but this one is going to go poof or at least dwindle to the point of needing lots of server merges.
The server merges are a scam themselves lol...

They entice people on server dominated by a player they cannot hope to beat.
So what does TQ do? They give them an option to start from scratch just to make you feel good about getting a chance to have a chance on a new server.

Just to merge them and its all the same thing again.
If they were interested in server merges due to player population then merge all servers groups into 2-3 servers.

For example Wild Kingdom which is the oldest group of servers in the game should all be merged into like Dragon and Eagle.
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The server merges are a scam themselves lol...

They entice people on server dominated by a player they cannot hope to beat.
So what does TQ do? They give them an option to start from scratch just to make you feel good about getting a chance to have a chance on a new server.

Just to merge them and its all the same thing again.
If they were interested in server merges due to player population then merge all servers groups into 2-3 servers.

For example Wild Kingdom which is the oldest group of servers in the game should all be merged into like Dragon and Eagle.
Oh yeah no doubt. They just need 16 servers + the 2 noob servers as I have mentioned before that gives 1 eu group and one us group and somewhere for new players to get a start on without being overwhelmed.
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