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Old 03-22-2007, 08:02   #16
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noes... trojans level there because of that and its annoying getting zapped -.-
it's worth getting zapped to eradicate botters, is it not?
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Old 03-22-2007, 08:09   #17
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it's worth getting zapped to eradicate botters, is it not?
no its not
then ppl would stop using the 2nd maps
cos the use of being there when there are msgrs everywhere there too?
and the highest level you can get in 2nd maps are like 90?
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Old 03-22-2007, 08:41   #18
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If you don't like bots, don't make other peoples leveling difficult because of them.

A person could outlevel a bot if they had enough time in the world, so they just assume its faster, but its not. A manually leveling person could level faster. So shh.

But anyways. If you have a problem with bots, then kill the people who use them, its that simple. And then have your buddies kill them. Most botters tend to not keep an eye on their characters so they get to wander as a ghost for a couple hours, or disconnect. Either or.

I don't personally give two ****s if someone is a botter or not. If they want to get to someplace with less 'work' thats up to them, and I could care less. Its a game to enjoy and if thats where they get their kicks, whatever, as long as they don't intefere with my fun. If I see one, I might kill one just to start trouble, but thats just me.

Anyways. Don't make other people miserable because you don't like bots and want something done about it. Because thats what this suggestion would do. :P
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Old 03-22-2007, 10:20   #19
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i got hammer by this, topic about botting. Botting is a problem in CO, but the sugessestion don't allow us to start topic about botting.

Here, from the suggestion guildline:

Now, a list of things you should not make topics about.

* *** marriage/Sex change
* Anything that is not an actual suggestion. This include complaining about a recent change made to the game, website or other.
* PK safe areas, adding/moving guards, pk system changes, etc
* Virtually anything involving how crowded/laggy TG is
* Server split requests
* 125+ mobs
* New Classes
* Changing the time things occur (maint, quests etc). Any time will be a time inconvenient for one person or another.
* Complaining about how weak a class is
* Reporting bugs/hacks/account issues, etc
* The way TQ does business or runs their games/servers/forum/website
* Anything which would alter the game fundamentals
* Adding NPCs such as pharmacist/blacksmith to lab
* Anything ridiculously complicated
* Ideas brought about by pure layzness
* Complaining about the difficulty of leveling, skill training, socket making, etc
* New skills for the existing classes (ideas involving 2nd rebirth are fine)
* New pieces of equipment, such as 2-handed swords, quivers, gauntlet/buckler (for war with a 2h) etc
* Horses
* Botting, changes to botjail, ways to catch botters, cheat prevention, fix aimbot, ect.
* New versions of conquer, CO3, ect
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Old 03-22-2007, 10:22   #20
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i got hammer by this, topic about botting. Botting is a problem in CO, but the sugessestion don't allow us to start topic about botting.

Here, from the suggestion guildline:

Now, a list of things you should not make topics about.

* *** marriage/Sex change
* Anything that is not an actual suggestion. This include complaining about a recent change made to the game, website or other.
* PK safe areas, adding/moving guards, pk system changes, etc
* Virtually anything involving how crowded/laggy TG is
* Server split requests
* 125+ mobs
* New Classes
* Changing the time things occur (maint, quests etc). Any time will be a time inconvenient for one person or another.
* Complaining about how weak a class is
* Reporting bugs/hacks/account issues, etc
* The way TQ does business or runs their games/servers/forum/website
* Anything which would alter the game fundamentals
* Adding NPCs such as pharmacist/blacksmith to lab
* Anything ridiculously complicated
* Ideas brought about by pure layzness
* Complaining about the difficulty of leveling, skill training, socket making, etc
* New skills for the existing classes (ideas involving 2nd rebirth are fine)
* New pieces of equipment, such as 2-handed swords, quivers, gauntlet/buckler (for war with a 2h) etc
* Horses
* Botting, changes to botjail, ways to catch botters, cheat prevention, fix aimbot, ect.
* New versions of conquer, CO3, ect
hehe, almost forgot about that one ^^
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Old 03-22-2007, 10:55   #21
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But most botters level in MC or WZ, where there are messengers and there are no 2nd maps. So, how would this stop them?
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But most botters level in MC or WZ, where there are messengers and there are no 2nd maps. So, how would this stop them?
I thought most high level melees went to lab. (thats what I've seen).

But the core of it is: You need physical defense to tank physical monsters, but that leaves you vulnerable to messengers, so you take alot of damage from them. This in turn means that a botter would have trouble running for a long time because their pots would soon run out.

They don't take into a account that it would work the same for non-botters too. :/ For higher levels ones, I suppose it doesn't take it into account there.
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I thought most high level melees went to lab. (thats what I've seen).

But the core of it is: You need physical defense to tank physical monsters, but that leaves you vulnerable to messengers, so you take alot of damage from them. This in turn means that a botter would have trouble running for a long time because their pots would soon run out.

They don't take into a account that it would work the same for non-botters too. :/ For higher levels ones, I suppose it doesn't take it into account there.
Most botters I know of go to MC and WZ, if someone kills you when you are botting in lab, you've lost 2k VP, if someone killed you when you were botting in MC, you've lost nothing, and if you get PKed in WZ, HWs aren't worth much.

One botter I know used to go to the exact same spawn every day, and I used to kill him every day
He didn't mind me killing him though, cos he was botting and he shouldn't have been, and we became friends and I stopped killing him ^^
(Edit: He used to bot in MC)

And I don't see why non-botters should have to suffer fighting messengers when leveling just because people bot. Making it harder to level would just encourage more people to bot surely?

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Bots are good, more high level noobs to pwn.



Aimbot is crap though, but TQ making the server.dat serverside, or making CO connect to the servers in a different way other than reading server.dat would fix aimbot.
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Aimbot is crap though, but TQ making the server.dat serverside, or making CO connect to the servers in a different way other than reading server.dat would fix aimbot.
You would say that. Wait until you're level 127 THEN you will say get rid of bots
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sounds good, make it harder to lvl = tq getting more db buys




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second maps are where peopel go to level and hunt

if u put messengers then how would archres with hats be able to hunt at their spawns?

if you make it so they dont spawn in some places to keep the hunting spawns free of magic monsters then botters will go there.

just let tq try and fix up their coding or something this idea sucks for melee levelers and hunters

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Most botters I know of go to MC and WZ, if someone kills you when you are botting in lab, you've lost 2k VP, if someone killed you when you were botting in MC, you've lost nothing, and if you get PKed in WZ, HWs aren't worth much.

One botter I know used to go to the exact same spawn every day, and I used to kill him every day
He didn't mind me killing him though, cos he was botting and he shouldn't have been, and we became friends and I stopped killing him ^^
(Edit: He used to bot in MC)

And I don't see why non-botters should have to suffer fighting messengers when leveling just because people bot. Making it harder to level would just encourage more people to bot surely?
If they are blessed you really don't impede botters (except in Advanced Zone and related places.) The bot automatically self-revives them. Good thing there aren't many people I see that bot that are blessed (much to their demise.)

And you are right. Making it harder to level will only make people that much more bot wanting and using. A good many of them wouldn't care anyways and would probably just stack vanillas to the ceiling and bot anyways.

Right now, botting is somewhat common, about 40% of all people I see leveling are suspicious of being a botter (usually a thunder zap is enough to tell), and for me, its a good way to stir up trouble (alot of botters spew crap out when they die - well, when they find out, I find it funny.) and other than that, its their business, and TQ doesn't seem to care much either.

All in all, the best way to get rid of botters is not to come on here and complain about it, but to level a decently high level character, get some decent gear, and go hunting. Get some buddies with you, and make their life miserable, since few botters actually bother with getting blessed. Especially the higher level ones, that exp isn't easy to get. You might even get some good loot they've picked up, or some exp. Revkill is dastardly.

I don't care personally, but alot of self-righteous idiots proclaiming it ruins the game (which is only true when aimbot is involved) would find it appealing. But alot of them are too busy ranting that TQ must do something to realize Hey! I could be doing something right NOW that is better than just banning them!
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