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Old 07-12-2010, 04:16   #1
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Balancing Archers

Let me make this clear before I state this suggestion, I have not played an archer and years and am by no means have any sort of bias to help archers, But I do believe this game does have quite a few balance issues.

The main point is, Archer Items need a MINOR Rework.

Archers deal incredibly low damage, most people credit this to the release of boots above 120. Talismans, can lean in both directions for archers, but in the current state of Conquer, I don't think it's in a positive one.

Archer Bow + increases it's attack damage by a VERY marginal amount.

So in turn:

1. Archer Bow (+), should add a "(-) Dodge" effect, in which on impact of an arrow or skill, the targets dodge is decrased, and then archer base damage is calculated, and then talismans of course from final damage.

Super +12 boots give (I'm not entirely sure) 98 Dodge?

A +1 bow should have a (-1) Dodge Effect, +2 (-3), +3 (-6), +4 (-9), +5 (-12), +6 (-15), +7 (-18), +8 (-21), +9 (-25), +10 (-28), +11 (-31), and +12 (-35)

In Turn, would add a counter for shields, which balanced that item out, and works against leaving archer damage entirely up to talismans due to the +98 Dodge offset. And would give the Fire-Fire dodge skill more usage.

Now with this said, Archer Damage should obviously cap out when Battle Power is even or talismans completely offset each other at roughly at 800 damage. (And this being entirely off how dodge damage is calculated, which I still haven't quite understood).


Anyways, people probably won't read this but w/e I felt like getting the idea out.

Archers are getting slightly ripped out of what they're getting from a Bow, and that's fact of the matter.

//end rant

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Old 07-12-2010, 06:03   #2
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read the rules.
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i votes yes. and i lol'ed @ the thread starters sig. db finder lmao. ill call you a db finder when you get to a 1000dbs like i have
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i votes yes. and i lol'ed @ the thread starters sig. db finder lmao. ill call you a db finder when you get to a 1000dbs like i have
I've bought maybe that many, not found.
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Nope, Archers are for hunting not for winning guild wars.
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arhers is for hunting and do quest for items easy. can help take pole faster since attack speed is faster than all other classes. it not for fighting tros and ninjas that with massive melee damages.
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flying archers with good talis bbbbbbbbbbbbbbb they dont need more atk, they fly, fog and can hit anywhere from the middle of arena looool + pure sklls are comming to help them big time and they use spears too and bow....
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archers have already received a 200 attack boost with the talismans, remember archers can fly so they are not often hit, why don't you try improving your fan to +12 that way you will increase your attack abundantly and instead of using dragon gems use tortoise gems, that way no player magigian will hit high amounts of damage on you. while you will still hit over 200 per arrow
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Nope, Archers are for hunting not for winning guild wars.
You got the point. After all their low attack is good enough to zap people during fight.

If anyone wants to do higher dmg, plus your fan.
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flying archers with good talis bbbbbbbbbbbbbbb they dont need more atk, they fly, fog and can hit anywhere from the middle of arena looool + pure sklls are comming to help them big time and they use spears too and bow....

Not all archers fly you know. I only ever fly against ninjas and twohanded warriors and een then I do it only to piss them off normally I don't fly.
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Fans do more damage than towers block. Archers fly. They can also use fog just like every other ninja in the game. Archers can spend no money on their def items and crank damage, and that's what they do because they can. Leave 'em alone.
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I never used to have any trouble staying alive on my arch-war-arch and I only had a +5 -5 sdg coat and +7 bow (with the rest of my gears on ofc)
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