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Old 01-30-2015, 22:53   #1
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P defense damage reduction

Does anyone know if 500 defense will make much of a difference if I already have 31k? Thanks
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Old 01-31-2015, 00:10   #2
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Like 100-200 less physical damage.
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Does anyone know if 500 defense will make much of a difference if I already have 31k? Thanks
31k is a lot, at that point I think you already hit a good base and it may be good for you.

I'm guessing you are considering taking jianghu to P-Def over max hp?
Not a bad idea. But, MAX HP is a difficult subject.
Maybe it's best to aim for massive hp then settle with defense that you can get from items?
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Like 100-200 less physical damage.
i think it would be lil bit more like 500-1000 or so around there if he gets 500 more def...by the way i see it p def and hp wind up being the same overall which ever 1 u go with in jiang...i have p def in jiang and i believe if i had hp instead matchs would still end up the same, ppl would still hit me just lil bit below what hp is....thats what i think i could be wrong just my own conclusion for now
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i think it would be lil bit more like 500-1000 or so around there if he gets 500 more def...by the way i see it p def and hp wind up being the same overall which ever 1 u go with in jiang...i have p def in jiang and i believe if i had hp instead matchs would still end up the same, ppl would still hit me just lil bit below what hp is....thats what i think i could be wrong just my own conclusion for now
assassin almost all have a chance to rekt you by charging cause of low hp, cause defense calculation i think isn't factored in for assassins only block.
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i think it would be lil bit more like 500-1000 or so around there if he gets 500 more def...by the way i see it p def and hp wind up being the same overall which ever 1 u go with in jiang...i have p def in jiang and i believe if i had hp instead matchs would still end up the same, ppl would still hit me just lil bit below what hp is....thats what i think i could be wrong just my own conclusion for now
The extra defense would make quite a difference in XP shield.
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imo, if it;s the same as normal def, should be around 200 less damage taken with max bless, maybe less if you factor 2nd reborn def...
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Hmm probably not worth it then for now, hopefully warrior epics will improve on defense and then I will return to it.
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Hmm probably not worth it then for now, hopefully warrior epics will improve on defense and then I will return to it.
i heard def from j/h works differently than normal def from gears. could be a bug, im not entirely sure.

you should test it on a noob.

if my math is correct:

damage taken = attack - def x 1st reb/2nd reb reduction - blessed.

b/n 2nd reborns, reductionn damage cancels out so, to make it simpler:

it's att - def - blessed, with def being normal def+ j/h def, but some say it's not.


what if damage taken = attack -normal def - blessed - j/h def?

full epics j/h dec on 2 gates is how much?
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i heard def from j/h works differently than normal def from gears. could be a bug, im not entirely sure.

you should test it on a noob.

if my math is correct:

damage taken = attack - def x 1st reb/2nd reb reduction - blessed.

b/n 2nd reborns, reductionn damage cancels out so, to make it simpler:

it's att - def - blessed, with def being normal def+ j/h def, but some say it's not.


what if damage taken = attack -normal def - blessed - j/h def?

full epics j/h dec on 2 gates is how much?
gotta be a lot
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All epic p def jiang is 4860 I believe
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assassin almost all have a chance to rekt you by charging cause of low hp, cause defense calculation i think isn't factored in for assassins only block.
ur wrong....i hardly get beat by assassin unless they have more counter then my break and then they usually win in points because i can't 1 hit break them...focus doesn't kill me and assassins are the easiest class to hit with melee
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ur wrong....i hardly get beat by assassin unless they have more counter then my break and then they usually win in points because i can't 1 hit break them...focus doesn't kill me and assassins are the easiest class to hit with melee
i remember a king switching from p-def to hp because assasin will one charge him everytime, cause he had like 40k ish hp.
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i heard def from j/h works differently than normal def from gears. could be a bug, im not entirely sure.

you should test it on a noob.

if my math is correct:

damage taken = attack - def x 1st reb/2nd reb reduction - blessed.

b/n 2nd reborns, reductionn damage cancels out so, to make it simpler:



what if damage taken = attack -normal def - blessed - j/h def?

full epics j/h dec on 2 gates is how much?
From what I've experienced actual defense doesn't do much for me as a warr idk why (23.5k atm with p7souls at lvl 135 necky is +8). Its only when I decided to switch up some of my chi rolls for -P~DMG did i start seeing a hell of a difference. Currently have a +7 tower super gems and all with a few ok chi rolls in regards to - dmg so it sits at 4.5k in total. I plan on re working 1 or 2 stages in jiang and then raising attribute levels so my -dmg sits comfortably at 5.5-6k. Only a 30k score atm and my hp rolls are garbage so i only expect more tankage to come . at 345 bp and 38k hp flat just about everyone had a hard time killing me. kings have to 2-3 hit me

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ur wrong....i hardly get beat by assassin unless they have more counter then my break and then they usually win in points because i can't 1 hit break them...focus doesn't kill me and assassins are the easiest class to hit with melee
might be different case when youre lucking 10-12k hp...
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