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Old 02-27-2014, 10:14   #1
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New players

A friend of mine wanted to start playing so we got into this discussion.
For new players from scratch and want to get a very good geared account and stats aswell u need a lot... lvl 140 which takes a year or so, unless u bot or spent over 8 hours a day on co.
Subclasses u need maxed out which will take a very long time since u need around 40k/30 per subclass
Chi which would fit you good, 500 u get daily+ from some quests around 700 daily but would take around a year max to get it quite decent.
Jiang, will take alot of time since u are limited to 10 and if u cannot kill anyone cause of your gears you are most likely dead before u reach purple.
And get good nobility aswell if u want to have pro stats which will cost quite some money...

After u got all of that with full +12, lvl 140 and chi jiang decent to your char u will need to get full ultra in jiang to get the effects which add no bonus damage stats or anything but just looks differently for 8300 cps each. And u can only learn them when u have lvl 15 jiang so everything orange which will take a year or three.

Point taken that its nearly impossible for new players to get into the game to have fun and dominate before passing all of these above.

@TQ, soul skills should have a benefit if they will cost 8300 cps and dont make them for the bulkers with the level 15 bonus cap bull****.
Its already 8300 for an accesory and aswell u need max level of jiang which is nearly impossible unless you invest alot.

Just wanted to lay down my feedback about the current position of the game.
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Old 02-27-2014, 11:09   #2
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I was thinking exactly the same thing , its really hard for a brand new player to enter this game now. I know TQ try to make the Account more valuable than gears but not allowing to buy or sell account . Soon will be less and less new player, at the same time ppl are quitting everyday so I can see this game will be dead in couple years... ehh
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Old 02-27-2014, 12:02   #3
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Definitely way too hard for new players to start playing this game. Every time I meet a new player they are really interested until they find out how much cp's it will take to be somewhat decent. They usually keep playing getting more and more discouraged that their character is so far behind everyone else's as well the egys that love to pk non-stop noob chars. They maybe buy cps but then realize once again it's going to take much more than they could afford or would like to spend on a game. Within a few months or less they all pretty much quit playing and look for something new that isn't so reliant on spending money to be decent.
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Point taken that its nearly impossible for new players to get into the game to have fun and dominate before passing all of these above.
Having fun and dominating might be diferent things so its very posible for a new player to have fun in CO. It all depends on what he like and what he finds fun. And about dominating... well it would cost a lot $$$. But everything is posible. Its even possible that i will find a DB today
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Old 02-27-2014, 22:44   #5
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A friend of mine wanted to start playing so we got into this discussion.
For new players from scratch and want to get a very good geared account and stats aswell u need a lot... lvl 140 which takes a year or so, unless u bot or spent over 8 hours a day on co.
Subclasses u need maxed out which will take a very long time since u need around 40k/30 per subclass
Chi which would fit you good, 500 u get daily+ from some quests around 700 daily but would take around a year max to get it quite decent.
Jiang, will take alot of time since u are limited to 10 and if u cannot kill anyone cause of your gears you are most likely dead before u reach purple.
And get good nobility aswell if u want to have pro stats which will cost quite some money...

After u got all of that with full +12, lvl 140 and chi jiang decent to your char u will need to get full ultra in jiang to get the effects which add no bonus damage stats or anything but just looks differently for 8300 cps each. And u can only learn them when u have lvl 15 jiang so everything orange which will take a year or three.

Point taken that its nearly impossible for new players to get into the game to have fun and dominate before passing all of these above.

@TQ, soul skills should have a benefit if they will cost 8300 cps and dont make them for the bulkers with the level 15 bonus cap bull****.
Its already 8300 for an accesory and aswell u need max level of jiang which is nearly impossible unless you invest alot.

Just wanted to lay down my feedback about the current position of the game.
It's perfectly possible; it would be a combination of bulking and no-lifing it. Honestly, though, the game is ten years old, why would anyone want to start playing it now, when there are hundreds of more modern games to derp around on?
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A friend of mine wanted to start playing so we got into this discussion.
For new players from scratch and want to get a very good geared account and stats aswell u need a lot... lvl 140 which takes a year or so, unless u bot or spent over 8 hours a day on co.
Subclasses u need maxed out which will take a very long time since u need around 40k/30 per subclass
Chi which would fit you good, 500 u get daily+ from some quests around 700 daily but would take around a year max to get it quite decent.
Jiang, will take alot of time since u are limited to 10 and if u cannot kill anyone cause of your gears you are most likely dead before u reach purple.
And get good nobility aswell if u want to have pro stats which will cost quite some money...

After u got all of that with full +12, lvl 140 and chi jiang decent to your char u will need to get full ultra in jiang to get the effects which add no bonus damage stats or anything but just looks differently for 8300 cps each. And u can only learn them when u have lvl 15 jiang so everything orange which will take a year or three.

Point taken that its nearly impossible for new players to get into the game to have fun and dominate before passing all of these above.

@TQ, soul skills should have a benefit if they will cost 8300 cps and dont make them for the bulkers with the level 15 bonus cap bull****.
Its already 8300 for an accesory and aswell u need max level of jiang which is nearly impossible unless you invest alot.

Just wanted to lay down my feedback about the current position of the game.
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Having fun and dominating might be diferent things so its very posible for a new player to have fun in CO. It all depends on what he like and what he finds fun. And about dominating... well it would cost a lot $$$. But everything is posible. Its even possible that i will find a DB today
fun can easilly turn into nightmare when everytime you step outside you can get picked on then you realized youre too weak to compete.
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Starting at Classic makes it a lot better than 2.0, though it's still hard.
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Starting at Classic makes it a lot better than 2.0, though it's still hard.

Probably stupid and you can also probably find the information on the site but can you transfer from Classic to 2.0 or vica versa?
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Probably stupid and you can also probably find the information on the site but can you transfer from Classic to 2.0 or vica versa?
You can transfer out of classic, but not into.
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Don't forget about souls, refinerys, Gear level( unless u bough all ur gear already lvled)

- damage accesorys,garments and mounts.
-IF ur gear its not blessed, it wont matter if ur + 12 ur gonna die 1 hit.
-Over 200 hp gear enchanted mandatory.
-Realloted completly.
- Char must be 2nd reborned 130-130 to actually compete.( meanwhile ur dead)
- U need a guild to gain bp from , or ur dead. ( 1 single battle power less and you die 1 hit) you can have all ur main gear + 12 maxed( taliz,armor,ring neck,weps etc).. if you have ur boots + 11, ur gonna die 1 hit to the guy that has them + 12. but the exact same gear as you.

-you can have better gear than your opponent , but if ur opponent has a mentor,better guild position or nobility and he manages to get higher bp than u. UR dead.

Not to mention the chi rankings, which gives even more bonuses to those ho reach its grasp.

and tq wants more players

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I completely agree with you, I made a suggestion not to long ago about upping the cps of each tq card. Yea maybe the prices of gear would rise in markets but the prices in shopping mall would stay the same, as well as events and what ever a new player may run into during game play.. This obviously discouraged a lot of players with +12's already. But for the new players I thought it was a good idea since the current state of the game, lets face it there is no real way new players could earn a real income worthy enough to compete, buying cps is the only way and the price to play makes a huge impact on a new players decision. There are some people who enjoy logging on to chat with conquer players, some who like to spend hours slaying away at monsters or creating new accounts and leveling them, and then you have those who want to pk; and lets face it this game promotes just that. So yea you can pk noobs if you're a noob but 9 out 10 times you're sitting shackled or ghost. There really needs to be some events that give out cps that everyone can do not just bulkers or up the cps we get from each card.

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I agree it's too hard for new players. That started when lottery got released and has been getting worse ever since.

Subclasses are a pain in the ass, just started a new character and OMG its annoying.. wasn't too bad the first time with the arena point bug giving me 1000000000000s of dragon pills, but only being able to buy a few per day is stupid, banshee is controlled by no life egys who play 24/7.. it's near impossible other than spending cps on mod books.

In short CO has become impossible to play unless you're willing to spend a few grand.
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