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Old 08-23-2010, 12:53   #151
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Too lazy to go thru all the pages but are you saying having lower attack than targets Defense gives a damage boost while having higher attack than the targets Defense do everything normally?
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Old 08-23-2010, 14:46   #152
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I like the Minimal Damage idea, it'll give weaker players a fighting chance. Our server is dying and increasing the number of people who can compete with high-end players will only make it more fun.

I'm sure bulkers will cry, but who gives a ****, right?


Also, to who ever was *****ing about imbalance, you'll have to deal with it. Reincarnation was just TQ's way of saying that you'll just have to keep up with the times and reincarnate if you can't handle being underpowered.
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Perhaps we could see some videos or something of various scenarios of this PK update? o.O
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love the idea

the weak get a little stronger
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stronger stay stronger

gna be good =) good pvp~?
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Archers were NOT meant to pk, especially in classic. So, get real.
Again, where does TQ specifically said this? When I created my archer TQ never said "be ca reful, this class is not meant to pk".
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for the moron that said this should not apply to archer read this :
i`m a 303 full 2 sock super archer lvl 137 and i do 1 dmg to any user of +10 or higher talismans mine are +8.

for the other moron that said no to this a question do u think a 137 archer should do 1 dmg to any character ? u call that balanced ?


i say YES its been way to long since since archer class became crap

for the morons that think archers are just for hunt/plvl know this archers have bad luck in hunting CindyZ confirmed what i already know, and plvl nobody does it since no db at promo lvl 110 that makes archers a crap class having nothing to do
1. That doesn't mean archers suck. That means you suck against players with better talisman.
2. The real question is, what do you hit one players that don't have +8 talisman?
3. Archers with better talismans are over powered. If your talismans are event remotley crappier than archers, the archer will rape you unless you pot.

What you are complaining about is talismans. And yes everyone agrees talismans are over powered. Some archers have like 30k attack, what does that mean for their minimum damage. I'm not saying archers are over powered, I'm saying they may need a small increase in buffer. As everyone knows, even if you are a level 137 it doesn't mean ****. It's about your gears. I agree with premise; I just think you are an ******* running around calling people morons.
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1. That doesn't mean archers suck. That means you suck against players with better talisman.
2. The real question is, what do you hit one players that don't have +8 talisman?
3. Archers with better talismans are over powered. If your talismans are event remotley crappier than archers, the archer will rape you unless you pot.

What you are complaining about is talismans. And yes everyone agrees talismans are over powered. Some archers have like 30k attack, what does that mean for their minimum damage. I'm not saying archers are over powered, I'm saying they may need a small increase in buffer. As everyone knows, even if you are a level 137 it doesn't mean ****. It's about your gears. I agree with premise; I just think you are an ******* running around calling people morons.
conitinous attacks are not included.
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its **** dnt bring it in ninja vortex gets hit now meaning we no longer get hit for 1 while using vortex, unless thats a bug
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Ok can everyone finally stop crying about the minimum damage of arcs? It does NOT, i repeat NOT, have to do with this thread. Along with fires, arcs use continuous attacks and they are NOT affected by this update which has been said a ****LOAD OF TIMES...

mkay?

And I still stand by my statement that potency needs to be adjusted. If that can be done, PVP will be more challenging for everyone and not just the noobs without gears. Why don't ya'll get that? How the hell are you gonna "balance" when you only aim for a certain group... In the end everyone that has more potency then someone else has a way too big advantage so fix the problem in 1 time and adjust potency...
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Archers are supposed to suck at PvP. They were made for plvling and money making. Case closed.
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Ok can everyone finally stop crying about the minimum damage of arcs? It does NOT, i repeat NOT, have to do with this thread. Along with fires, arcs use continuous attacks and they are NOT affected by this update which has been said a ****LOAD OF TIMES...

mkay?

And I still stand by my statement that potency needs to be adjusted. If that can be done, PVP will be more challenging for everyone and not just the noobs without gears. Why don't ya'll get that? How the hell are you gonna "balance" when you only aim for a certain group... In the end everyone that has more potency then someone else has a way too big advantage so fix the problem in 1 time and adjust potency...
Where does it say archers and fires are not included? ...

Even if they say they aren't included the fact is and still stands that they HAVE been included. I have fought over fifty archers today which minutes prior to the update hit 1s on me, now they hit anywhere from 50 to 500s.
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Archers are supposed to suck at PvP. They were made for plvling and money making. Case closed.
u my friend are a moron :

1. its not your game to decide what a class should or not do
2. there is no mention of that on co page or when u login first time to create a character
3. before 129 boots archers used to have a fighting chance equal in pvp as any other player as in balanced class doing 1k dmg now they do 1 dmg
4. archers have bad luck in hunting because of scatter CyndyZ confirmed so no point hunting when u can`t find anything
5. plvl is out of the question since waters don`t give a db at promo
6. after u read that u can hit ur head against the wall and admit ur a moron
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which minutes prior to the update hit 1s on me, now they hit anywhere from 50 to 500s.


wooooooooowwwwwww they hit u 500 OMG OMG thats like 200 hits and u are dead STFU all other classes 1 hit them
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u my friend are a moron :

1. its not your game to decide what a class should or not do
It's not YOUR game to decide to buff up a fail class.
2. there is no mention of that on co page or when u login first time to create a character
So? lol
There were also no disclaimer that 7 years later firetaos will be uber haxed out. People play what they want appeals to them, and TQ TQ's them accordingly.

3. before 129 boots archers used to have a fighting chance equal in pvp as any other player as in balanced class doing 1k dmg now they do 1 dmg
I have no comment cause archer's never did 1k damage to my fire-fire, lulzy.
4. archers have bad luck in hunting because of scatter CyndyZ confirmed so no point hunting when u can`t find anything
Why do they have worse luck? Cause they have SCATTER. The amount of mobs you kill makes up for the lower rate of drops. Duh. Barely anyone finds dbs anymore, archers still have the upperhand in hunting for mets (lol, like who does that anymore either), and what are you expecting, +1's and supers? Get real, they don't exist anymore.
5. plvl is out of the question since waters don`t give a db at promo
Boohoo, I know some people who still water farms, they just get it to 110 rb instead.
It's all about how much you're willing to put into getting what you want.

6. after u read that u can hit ur head against the wall and admit ur a moron
I almost hit my head against the wall and admit that there is nobody more retarded than you on the forum.
Well no, I do think that you're one of the most retarded people on this forum. I just didn't want to hit my head against a wall.
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wooooooooowwwwwww they hit u 500 OMG OMG thats like 200 hits and u are dead STFU all other classes 1 hit them
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wtf, how u think i would want some noob hit me more than 1, specialy if my main is a full 2 sock Super Tortoise Gem, pure defense char... are you **... insane??? if u screw my play balance and the fun of be unbeatable ill be realy MAD
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