Short Rant on Ninjas - Conquer Online Forum

Pk'ersNightmare · 01-09-2009, 00:26

Small problem with pvp.I have a 89 Ninja that has serious handicap in pvp Taoists have lightning/nado and other ranged attacks, Archers have fly and arrows, Trojans and warriors have skills that add range to all their weapons. Only ranged att Ninja has is Fog and its a ***lative att and easy to counter with a few pots not to mention it is slow you have little to no chance of hitting a target that is jumping back and forth hitting you with fast blade or scent sword or a number of other attacks. So what good is a slightly higher att if you have almost no HP, Def or mag def and no way to pvp. IMO at this point Ninja is a PVE character only unless your one of the folks who took the easy rout and rbed an old char into Ninja in wich they can set stats to use thunder and guard.

donkey132 · 01-09-2009, 00:31

no need for ranged attacked. the whole point of a ninja is sneak attack, twofoldblades works wonders.

Radna · 01-09-2009, 00:32

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Originally Posted by Pk'ersNightmare

Small problem with pvp.I have a 89 Ninja that has serious handicap in pvp Taoists have lightning/nado and other ranged attacks, Archers have fly and arrows, Trojans and warriors have skills that add range to all their weapons. Only ranged att Ninja has is Fog and its a ***lative att and easy to counter with a few pots not to mention it is slow you have little to no chance of hitting a target that is jumping back and forth hitting you with fast blade or scent sword or a number of other attacks. So what good is a slightly higher att if you have almost no HP, Def or mag def and no way to pvp. IMO at this point Ninja is a PVE character only unless your one of the folks who took the easy rout and rbed an old char into Ninja in wich they can set stats to use thunder and guard.

Face it, you're just a noob. Not saying you always will. But of course at lower levels its going to be hard. Keep levelling!

heini · 01-09-2009, 00:33

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Originally Posted by Pk'ersNightmare

Small problem with pvp.I have a 89 Ninja that has serious handicap in pvp Taoists have lightning/nado and other ranged attacks, Archers have fly and arrows, Trojans and warriors have skills that add range to all their weapons. Only ranged att Ninja has is Fog and its a ***lative att and easy to counter with a few pots not to mention it is slow you have little to no chance of hitting a target that is jumping back and forth hitting you with fast blade or scent sword or a number of other attacks. So what good is a slightly higher att if you have almost no HP, Def or mag def and no way to pvp. IMO at this point Ninja is a PVE character only unless your one of the folks who took the easy rout and rbed an old char into Ninja in wich they can set stats to use thunder and guard.

ninjas are over powered and you're *****ing? learn to play before ranting like this.

Sir_DieAlot · 01-09-2009, 00:35

My ninja rocks at PvP, Fixed twofold blades > taos

Pk'ersNightmare · 01-09-2009, 00:45

Lmao 110-120 Water-Water , 110-120 Wat-War , 120-130 War-Troj , An old alt 122-100 Troj-Troj and a 111 Archer for PLVLing. Noob Im not Log your Ninja ill log my Troj and while your trying to get close enough to Twinfold ill already have ya owned with SS, or just do like most others and let guard pimp slap ya.

DaftPunk · 01-09-2009, 01:23

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Originally Posted by Pk'ersNightmare

and a 111 Archer for PLVLing.

oic

Master_Bauer · 01-09-2009, 01:59

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Originally Posted by heini

ninjas are over powered and you're *****ing? learn to play before ranting like this.

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DaftPunk · 01-09-2009, 02:18

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Originally Posted by Master_Bauer

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faen

qwizzie · 01-09-2009, 02:20

Just make it a pure ninja and yr problem with ranged attacks
on you will be solved.. i promise you

on a sidenote : anyone else having difficulty leveling up two-fold blades?
I'm at level 85 now and my level got stuck on elementary 0.783 percent ??
(killing level 93 mobs doesnt increase it)

Master_Bauer · 01-09-2009, 02:21

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Originally Posted by DaftPunk

faen

rofl + rep fore that!
Godt å se noen norske ord på forume xD

Raiujin · 01-09-2009, 03:37

Ninjas were not ment to dominate all other classes... get over it everyone dies once in a while

Eliminatrix · 01-09-2009, 03:54

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Originally Posted by qwizzie

Just make it a pure ninja and yr problem with ranged attacks
on you will be solved.. i promise you

on a sidenote : anyone else having difficulty leveling up two-fold blades?
I'm at level 85 now and my level got stuck on elementary 0.783 percent ??
(killing level 93 mobs doesnt increase it)

Its easy enough to level twofold, just go to mobs that are whitename that you do double damage to, levels ending in 0,5, and use twofold while doing Fatal Strike, you should get 15-20% on it with one XP skill.

Endet · 01-09-2009, 04:13

1st of all you didn't even mention using 2fold so I'm predicting you don't even know about the damn skill. It aint a great ranged skill, though it is the strongest ranged skill (x1.3 dmg at fixed)

Ninja should (not it SHOULD not IS) be a great sneaky killer able to one hit (2fold is for this but fails with the range and the fact they didn't implement a short invisibility skill) but is really a support class. Your rant is true in the sence that they don't do good against other players alone. Sure you can get a toxic fog on them (fixed) and drain their hps but how the hell you'll kill em if you can't get a hit on em.

But anyway, you can do just fine with a Ninja if you learn how to use 2fold and stop thinking you can actually KILL someone with toxic fog since it will never ever in this universum kill anyone.

CheekyPunk27 · 01-09-2009, 04:18

with twofold, is it leveled by activations, or damage?

edit: actually, it's damage isnt it, since FS makes it go fast. I will do that.

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01-09-2009, 00:26	#1
Pk'ersNightmare 3x War=God Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Orlando, Florida USA Posts: 128	Short Rant on Ninjas Small problem with pvp.I have a 89 Ninja that has serious handicap in pvp Taoists have lightning/nado and other ranged attacks, Archers have fly and arrows, Trojans and warriors have skills that add range to all their weapons. Only ranged att Ninja has is Fog and its a ***lative att and easy to counter with a few pots not to mention it is slow you have little to no chance of hitting a target that is jumping back and forth hitting you with fast blade or scent sword or a number of other attacks. So what good is a slightly higher att if you have almost no HP, Def or mag def and no way to pvp. IMO at this point Ninja is a PVE character only unless your one of the folks who took the easy rout and rbed an old char into Ninja in wich they can set stats to use thunder and guard. __________________ http://images.mmosite.com/bbs/face/021.gif

01-09-2009, 00:45	#6
Pk'ersNightmare 3x War=God Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Orlando, Florida USA Posts: 128	Lmao 110-120 Water-Water , 110-120 Wat-War , 120-130 War-Troj , An old alt 122-100 Troj-Troj and a 111 Archer for PLVLing. Noob Im not Log your Ninja ill log my Troj and while your trying to get close enough to Twinfold ill already have ya owned with SS, or just do like most others and let guard pimp slap ya. __________________ http://images.mmosite.com/bbs/face/021.gif

01-09-2009, 02:20	#10
qwizzie Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 38	Just make it a pure ninja and yr problem with ranged attacks on you will be solved.. i promise you on a sidenote : anyone else having difficulty leveling up two-fold blades? I'm at level 85 now and my level got stuck on elementary 0.783 percent ?? (killing level 93 mobs doesnt increase it) Last edited by qwizzie; 01-09-2009 at 02:23.

01-09-2009, 04:13	#14
Endet You think? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: On the long long road to home.. Posts: 3,147	1st of all you didn't even mention using 2fold so I'm predicting you don't even know about the damn skill. It aint a great ranged skill, though it is the strongest ranged skill (x1.3 dmg at fixed) Ninja should (not it SHOULD not IS) be a great sneaky killer able to one hit (2fold is for this but fails with the range and the fact they didn't implement a short invisibility skill) but is really a support class. Your rant is true in the sence that they don't do good against other players alone. Sure you can get a toxic fog on them (fixed) and drain their hps but how the hell you'll kill em if you can't get a hit on em. But anyway, you can do just fine with a Ninja if you learn how to use 2fold and stop thinking you can actually KILL someone with toxic fog since it will never ever in this universum kill anyone. __________________ Gernoil, Sapphire/Emerald, 2nd RB Warrior[\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|] lvl 130 Noobeh Click for my xfire broadcast page

01-09-2009, 00:31	#2
donkey132 Rockstar Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Cali Posts: 7,187	no need for ranged attacked. the whole point of a ninja is sneak attack, twofoldblades works wonders.

01-09-2009, 03:37	#12
Raiujin Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,392	Ninjas were not ment to dominate all other classes... get over it everyone dies once in a while

01-09-2009, 04:18	#15
CheekyPunk27 JesusFreak Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 6,512	with twofold, is it leveled by activations, or damage? edit: actually, it's damage isnt it, since FS makes it go fast. I will do that. __________________ Sapphire/Emerald Server Mitsurugi ~ Wat>War>Tro ~ Lv.140 ~ 342bp Was once special: Fixed Phoenix, Fixed Celestial, Fixed Penetration, Fixed Seizer RIP 22/10/11 +12 Sword ~ +12 Dagger ~ SuperRidingCrop(+6)(Bound) Since 2004 ~ Hacked Dec 2014 ~ RIP Last edited by CheekyPunk27; 01-09-2009 at 04:22.

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