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Old 04-09-2010, 00:09   #381
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Originally Posted by Buddah*Palm View Post
Basically, telling a white lie would be equal to having murdered an infant by chopping it into pieces and jerking off with its blood (Pardon the semi-graphic description, but that's basically what type of mindset we're dealing with). Now if the guy who did such horrendous acts to a child "truly repented/felt sorry his actions," he would be blameless in the eyes of God and allowed to reside in heaven forever. If the guy who told white lies died without asking for forgiveness - he has a first-class ticket on the HellBound Express (keep in mind, there are NO SECOND CHANCES).

So not only are you threatened with the idea of an eternity in hell, but overall the punishment doesn't suit the crime. So you'll have people rubbing rosaries and recanting "Hail Marys" on the off chance that they may be going to hell for something that they may have said rather than what they have done. You pretty much then have a system where people live life in fear of what's to come, rather than living the lives they could/should be living.
The main thing to understand is that people get sent to hell not for actions, but first and foremost for their relationship status with their creator: in a relationship or not.

All sinful actions are just the symptoms of the main disease - a rebellion against God. Some are more severe than others, but all, whether small or great highlight that someone is not in a right relationship with God.

About fear: There should be no fear, no uncertainty. You described a works based salvation, where someone has to do things in order to have their sins forgiven. Yes, there's fear there, because you never know if you've done the right thing or whether God has forgiven you. But in the Bible, salvation is not works based - it's grace based.

But I'm not catholic, so I won't go further on this point.

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It's ridiculous but that's about it really. Not to mention the fact that there is not true historical record of the man Jesus during the time period in which he supposedly lived in.
If you're suggesting that he may have not existed, you're in the stark minority.

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The miracles that are ascribed to him are also considered a part of mythology adapted from various other "messiahs" (i.e. Horus; an Egyptian god and many others) all of whom were reported to have healed the sick, cured the blind, died in public, and rose from the dead (zombies?)
We've been through this already in this thread in the earlier pages.
see: http://www.tektonics.org/copycathub.html

To sum it up, people on the interwebs have (either purposely or unknowingly) puffed up these similarities to levels that they aren't actually at. And any similarities that are legit are stupid ones like "he healed people! He raised the dead!". That's so vague that it could be ascribed to anyone...
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