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53cr37 W34p0n 01-13-2014 18:05

Think Again: Reasoning and Arguing
 
Think Again: Reasoning and Arguing is a free online course from Duke University and available on https://www.coursera.org/. It starts today 1/13/14, and lasts 12 weeks with 60 hours of estimated study time.

Off Topic could benefit enormously from what this course offers.

Sepharius 01-13-2014 18:26

Oh the irony.

53cr37 W34p0n 01-13-2014 18:57

If you don't know what good reasoning is, then you won't be able to spot it when it presents itself.

This means that somebody that believes in a magic sky god based on faith alone has already failed the test. Anything that reasons or argues against your faith is automatically a sinful reason and blasphemous argument.

~Ahmed~ 01-13-2014 20:04

It's funny, you didn't last too long. :)

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Originally Posted by 53cr37 W34p0n (Post 11833078)
This means that somebody that believes in a magic sky god based on faith alone has already failed the test. Anything that reasons or argues against your faith is automatically a sinful reason and blasphemous argument.

Shot yourself in the foot much?

Cowboy86 01-13-2014 20:35

Yes so please spread the word about atheism

LOL sorry I just had too
Always seeing these types of things are so childish
What's it to everybody else if I believe in something?
I'm not preaching or trying to spread...
But yet people waste so much of their own time telling me that
It's wrong to believe.
Sorta like how they believe and commit theirselves into not making others believe
Funny how this all works out huh? Lmao

53cr37 W34p0n 01-13-2014 21:00

I don't spread the word of atheism. I teach critical thinking skills, or post resources for critical thinking if I'm feeling unmotivated. If I'm arguing against theism, then it's about a bigger picture issue, which is... theist's lack of critical thinking skills. Theists use critical thinking in every other part of their life, except when they go to church and pray to their god. What's the deal? It's not a consistent pattern of reasoning, and that's called cognitive dissonance.

The argument that "what's the big deal if I believe something if I'm not forcing it on anyone" is inherently illogical. If you knew that the leaders of your armed nuclear arsenal believed in gremlins and aliens that control the world's politicians, then you'd think he was an absolute lunatic that needed to be removed from power where he could hurt somebody. I bet your belief doesn't influence your vote at all when *** rights, abortion, or mixing church and state topics come up, do they? A belief in a dogma entails that you follow that dogma, including all of the illegal parts. If you don't, then you don't really believe in it, and it's merely a social tool to blend in with the rest of the closeted non-believers.

~Ahmed~ 01-13-2014 21:04

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Cowboy86 01-13-2014 21:22

Loloolo I sware these are funny
Ur preaching to me call it economics politics warfare hardships
Or what ever u want it's preaching

Inheritly illogical how exactly?
My religion has nothing to do with warfare or that
I'm not praying to any warship leader talk science about it all u want
That's preaching
Idk why ppl expect god to fix everything for them and others
What do u expect for Jesus to come out of the sky and say weather
Or not abortion is bad? And then fix it?
Social tool? Naw Infact a lot of ppl I know don't really care to believe
In religion but they do it because there's a piece missing or
They want to have morals and/or retribution
This is what most tend to not understand about it all
Believeing is only half of what a beliefe really is..

ghfdhhdf 01-13-2014 22:08

This is seriously awesome, thanks.

53cr37 W34p0n 01-13-2014 22:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Ahmed~ (Post 11833088)

I saw it, and I didn't bother replying because your post made no sense.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowboy86 (Post 11833089)
Loloolo I sware these are funny
Ur preaching to me call it economics politics warfare hardships
Or what ever u want it's preaching

Inheritly illogical how exactly?
My religion has nothing to do with warfare or that
I'm not praying to any warship leader talk science about it all u want
That's preaching
Idk why ppl expect god to fix everything for them and others
What do u expect for Jesus to come out of the sky and say weather
Or not abortion is bad? And then fix it?
Social tool? Naw Infact a lot of ppl I know don't really care to believe
In religion but they do it because there's a piece missing or
They want to have morals and/or retribution
This is what most tend to not understand about it all
Believeing is only half of what a beliefe really is..

I won't apologize for your misunderstanding of my reasons or methods for "preaching" awareness of reality. In a democracy, is it not in my best interest to make people witness to delusions before they vote for public policies that may affect me? In close-proximity, is it not in my best interest to persuade emotionally unstable people that an atheist is not a target for discrimination, persecution and oppression, or violence?

If you need religion to have internalized morals, then you lack empathy.
If you need religion to have externalized morals, then you lack intelligence.

Do I need to explain how revenge, even in the guise of retribution, is morally wrong?

Electra_Glide 01-13-2014 22:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by 53cr37 W34p0n (Post 11833087)
I don't spread the word of atheism.

I think Ahmed hit the nail on the head, because you just can't shut the **** up about religion and that related to it.


n' I thought Panda was the most self absorbed on here. We have a new winner!

53cr37 W34p0n 01-13-2014 23:25

I didn't bring it up as a topic of debate. I let you guys decide what you wanted to debate, and I followed suit. Several of you decided to bring up god. People wished to keep the ball rolling, so it has. Personally attacking me because you can't keep up with the level of argumentation is juvenile, and a fallacy designed to pull attention away from the actual issue.

~Ahmed~ 01-13-2014 23:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by 53cr37 W34p0n (Post 11833094)
I saw it, and I didn't bother replying because your post made no sense.

Think again. ;)

Sepharius 01-14-2014 04:38

Ohhhh the irony.

Cowboy86 01-14-2014 08:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by 53cr37 W34p0n (Post 11833094)
I saw it, and I didn't bother replying because your post made no sense.


I won't apologize for your misunderstanding of my reasons or methods for "preaching" awareness of reality. In a democracy, is it not in my best interest to make people witness to delusions before they vote for public policies that may affect me? In close-proximity, is it not in my best interest to persuade emotionally unstable people that an atheist is not a target for discrimination, persecution and oppression, or violence?

If you need religion to have internalized morals, then you lack empathy.
If you need religion to have externalized morals, then you lack intelligence.

Do I need to explain how revenge, even in the guise of retribution, is morally wrong?

Haha it's not a miss understanding when u try this hard to tell
People that beleiveing is wrong /cover it up how u want too
It is preaching hands down
May affect you? Bud if ur referring too which country's beleive
In what and fight over it u got a long way to go
Saying it to a small group on forum on isn't going to help very much so
Then ur just preaching..
Ya I know retribution is wrong using this dumb phone and auto types
Rediculas crap
Haha no having any types of morals has nothing to do with empathy
Half of the ppl who go to my church are only they're to praise
And help..
That has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence
Especially when ur talking about differentials like warfare
Let me remind u that USA useually doesn't go war
Over religion Infact it's foot down and we step in the middle of
It to stop the nonsense
That and I'm free to beleieve in what I want too


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