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Shagrat 05-10-2018 14:11

M-Attack character thread
 
What is the way to go? What do you have?

Me:

I am currently around 42k M-Attack with my SPG warrior (bad chi and jiang, nin-war-war @ 378 BP w/o guild) and I can easily kill 398 BP characters if they dont pot (who doesnt?) and with some luck (3% core strike, cap is 5%? so it is not that realiable anyways?) thru potions. I picked this build coz I cannot be killed with 1 hit by kings or others alike. And because I am immune to other M-Attack players with Magic Defender and I can have 66% block w/o sacrificing any penetration still maintaining constant dmg output (90% break).

I kinda feel that high M-Strike could fix my problems with no real kill pressure present, but to be honest Toxic Fog is pretty much useless, so my build is starting to be a bit outdated. But some sort of M-Strike heavy pure glasscannon fire could actually be playable currently, maybe?

To be honest I haven't played that much with runes to really get every aspect of their benefits. Heck, I was checking those Water Taoist's rune explanations and if I understood them right and + Final Physical Damage applies to PSN Blade hit it could be quite devastating fella. :D


So what do you play? :D

Returning 05-10-2018 21:37

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Originally Posted by Shagrat (Post 11980455)
What is the way to go? What do you have?

Me:

I am currently around 42k M-Attack with my SPG warrior (bad chi and jiang, nin-war-war @ 378 BP w/o guild) and I can easily kill 398 BP characters if they dont pot (who doesnt?) and with some luck (3% core strike, cap is 5%? so it is not that realiable anyways?) thru potions. I picked this build coz I cannot be killed with 1 hit by kings or others alike. And because I am immune to other M-Attack players with Magic Defender and I can have 66% block w/o sacrificing any penetration still maintaining constant dmg output (90% break).

If you want survivability stay what you are, if you want faster attack speed and longer range and also to counter archers go fire.

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I kinda feel that high M-Strike could fix my problems with no real kill pressure present, but to be honest Toxic Fog is pretty much useless, so my build is starting to be a bit outdated. But some sort of M-Strike heavy pure glasscannon fire could actually be playable currently, maybe?
Yes your build is out dated. Honestly pirate-war-war (bomb) or maybe even monk-war-war to counter ww dot (I think this works) are much better options. As for mstrike... Nah stick with survivability and mattack in jiang bt chi a lot better all around. Another option if you play on teams a lot is dwar-xx-xx for team Stam boost

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To be honest I haven't played that much with runes to really get every aspect of their benefits. Heck, I was checking those Water Taoist's rune explanations and if I understood them right and + Final Physical Damage applies to PSN Blade hit it could be quite devastating fella. :D
It does work, but i would say it really wouldn't do you much good. To really benefit from that build you'd need to go pattack jiang and chi rather than mattack. Need a ring etc and you might be able to 1 tap someone. At that point you may as well go for an fb or something though because waiting on a zap while that low hp is just asking to be killed. Same for points you need to survive to accumulate them so sacrificing hp is a no go.

If you wanted something unique build wise you could both witchery and no mercy rune with a psn blade and see how that works out for you while leveling the blue warrior rune up. Something like that is probably your best bet.

Again, you'd need some pattack and sdgs not a lot but a bit to get the full benefits of this. I always thought a pattack Imm hp +final mattack build would be interesting for this.

*~BeLLaDonna~* 05-10-2018 21:48

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Originally Posted by Shagrat (Post 11980455)
What is the way to go? What do you have?

Me:

I am currently around 42k M-Attack with my SPG warrior (bad chi and jiang, nin-war-war @ 378 BP w/o guild) and I can easily kill 398 BP characters if they dont pot (who doesnt?) and with some luck (3% core strike, cap is 5%? so it is not that realiable anyways?) thru potions. I picked this build coz I cannot be killed with 1 hit by kings or others alike. And because I am immune to other M-Attack players with Magic Defender and I can have 66% block w/o sacrificing any penetration still maintaining constant dmg output (90% break).

I kinda feel that high M-Strike could fix my problems with no real kill pressure present, but to be honest Toxic Fog is pretty much useless, so my build is starting to be a bit outdated. But some sort of M-Strike heavy pure glasscannon fire could actually be playable currently, maybe?

To be honest I haven't played that much with runes to really get every aspect of their benefits. Heck, I was checking those Water Taoist's rune explanations and if I understood them right and + Final Physical Damage applies to PSN Blade hit it could be quite devastating fella. :D


So what do you play? :D

Hello Shagrat =)

Princess is trojan > warrior > fire

She has 55.4k magic attack and for now all spg with not too high perfection (320)... her chi is not really high (magic attack, hp, immunity +final m attack) and fixed jiang the same (no break)... her bp is 402

Runes: FireCurse (blue one) is 21.. the yellow runes i use most of the time are Witchery (9) Healer (7) and BloodSpawnBooster (6)... for hunting i just wear BossKiller level 3 >.<

Core Strike fixed is 8 pct.. but you also have Lucky Strike that can go to 7 pct

For pure glass cannon.. i dunno.. i think Core Strike is nice and i prefer to have immunity (202) and hp (63k)

Returning 05-10-2018 22:14

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Originally Posted by *~BeLLaDonna~* (Post 11980458)
Hello Shagrat =)

Princess is trojan > warrior > fire

She has 55.4k magic attack and for now all spg with not too high perfection (320)... her chi is not really high (magic attack, hp, immunity +final m attack) and fixed jiang the same (no break)... her bp is 402

Runes: FireCurse (blue one) is 21.. the yellow runes i use most of the time are Witchery (9) Healer (7) and BloodSpawnBooster (6)... for hunting i just wear BossKiller level 3 >.<

Core Strike fixed is 8 pct.. but you also have Lucky Strike that can go to 7 pct

For pure glass cannon.. i dunno.. i think Core Strike is nice and i prefer to have immunity (202) and hp (63k)

Have you tested going stg? It's very strange but my friend who is a fire 45k mattack and 63k hp (he's not full +12 or fixed jiang yet) we were testing today and he was 36% (6) stg in gear at that time I would crit him for about 63k we ended up going 3 more stgs to and got it to where I only crit him 52k max At the same time he only lost about 700 dmg which I found odd ;o. Anyway just a thought you'd probably lose slightly more due to being slightly higher mattack I just thought it was worth it for him he still does about 10.5k zaps to me with lvl 3 or 4 witchery.

*~BeLLaDonna~* 05-10-2018 22:48

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Originally Posted by Returning (Post 11980459)
Have you tested going stg? It's very strange but my friend who is a fire 45k mattack and 63k hp (he's not full +12 or fixed jiang yet) we were testing today and he was 36% (6) stg in gear at that time I would crit him for about 63k we ended up going 3 more stgs to and got it to where I only crit him 52k max At the same time he only lost about 700 dmg which I found odd ;o. Anyway just a thought you'd probably lose slightly more due to being slightly higher mattack I just thought it was worth it for him he still does about 10.5k zaps to me with lvl 3 or 4 witchery.

Hello Returning =)

I am thinking about trying full stgs too to see... will be probably nicer for arena events cuz don't think she will lose too much attack (at least blue rune extra damage will not change ^_^) but for now i don't go arena

But even without stgs she is not too too weak... she dies but less than i thought she would

*EDIT* reflect + 11 pct BloodSpawn + lucky time helps a lot i guess

VeniVidiVici 05-11-2018 00:46

I'm playing final m-attack wat-war-fire atm 405BP

31k m-attack / 9.7k final m-atack / immunity 210% / 81k jiang (still working on chi :()

48% STG

witchery lvl 9

xp killer lvl 5 ( for epk ) and mp master lvl 5 for team pk/gw/ctf (using FOH)

healer rune (so don't need to carry mana pots anymore xD)

playing fire with runes is so much fun now, in gw / ctf i do 35-40k dmg on all archers / xp warrs its hilarious watching them all die haha


but when i really want to play 1v1 seriously for CS-EPK etc i play as:

wat-war-war

*you get 77%BLK

*reflect

* defence from warriors blue rune when using shield

*using warr red rune to kill WW xp skills in epk is dope haha

*120 second xp shield

* around 65k HP

I'm unkillable as warrior and i do 15k capped dmg to everyone so i always win on points

Shagrat 05-12-2018 01:17

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Originally Posted by Returning (Post 11980457)
It does work, but i would say it really wouldn't do you much good. To really benefit from that build you'd need to go pattack jiang and chi rather than mattack. Need a ring etc and you might be able to 1 tap someone. At that point you may as well go for an fb or something though because waiting on a zap while that low hp is just asking to be killed. Same for points you need to survive to accumulate them so sacrificing hp is a no go.

Doesn't Azure Shield give like 50k "hp shield" so low base hp isn't that bad. But yea, getting that PSN to proc is quite rng, but it could be interesting build.

King_Kai 05-12-2018 02:22

the reall question is.....does pzn zap work with water-taos sacrifice?

I have a 36k m-attk water with 36k final attk in s-mode,
does p-attk damage stack ontop of final-pattk? would it work with pzn zap?

*~BeLLaDonna~* 05-12-2018 02:32

Hello everyone ^_^

A lil thing i dunno if everyone noticed but critical for magic damage also works for blue rune... if you hit someone with fire of hell for 18k with extra damage of 1.5k.. then i guess with critical will be 36k + 3k of +final m damage..

It doesn't seem a lot for one enemy, but when you attack many ppl at plunder, ctf or gw, damage from blue rune can go up to 7k normal hit, no? .O

Now same person with many targets will do 36k + more than 10k +final m damage and with speed of fire of hell can kill ppl too fast even if not flying archers or other in xp skills

I looked at it tonight in realm quest on monsters, but I haven't looked too well on ppl... I will try to watch better tomorrow if i remember >.<

*EDIT* doesn't seem to work that way.. no double damage with blue rune attack *sigh*

Shagrat 05-12-2018 08:14

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Originally Posted by King_Kai (Post 11980481)
the reall question is.....does pzn zap work with water-taos sacrifice?

I have a 36k m-attk water with 36k final attk in s-mode,
does p-attk damage stack ontop of final-pattk? would it work with pzn zap?

Yea that was what I was going for with that water psn blade build idea :D No idea if it works :D

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Originally Posted by Returning (Post 11980457)
It does work, but i would say it really wouldn't do you much good. To really benefit from that build you'd need to go pattack jiang and chi rather than mattack. Need a ring etc and you might be able to 1 tap someone. At that point you may as well go for an fb or something though because waiting on a zap while that low hp is just asking to be killed. Same for points you need to survive to accumulate them so sacrificing hp is a no go.

So it works :D

Shagrat 05-17-2018 16:09

I am currently trying some pure fire and it kinda feels awfully bad vs anything higher than my own BP and mediocre vs ppl around it. :( With kings BP and very high perfection it could work, but kinda meh for anyone else, I think.

Ofc it works vs assassins, but windwalker's faceroll with that no stamina requiring aoe smash just is too op to really to be played against solo. Might try that water path next or maybe just go back to shield + BS and just play monk or warrior. :o

King_Kai 05-17-2018 18:02

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Originally Posted by Shagrat (Post 11980537)
I am currently trying some pure fire and it kinda feels awfully bad vs anything higher than my own BP and mediocre vs ppl around it. :( With kings BP and very high perfection it could work, but kinda meh for anyone else, I think.

Ofc it works vs assassins, but windwalker's faceroll with that no stamina requiring aoe smash just is too op to really to be played against solo. Might try that water path next or maybe just go back to shield + BS and just play monk or warrior. :o


Firetao with xp killer is OP bro! up ur exp killer and ww will be a mouse!

*~BeLLaDonna~* 05-17-2018 22:28

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Originally Posted by Shagrat (Post 11980537)
I am currently trying some pure fire and it kinda feels awfully bad vs anything higher than my own BP and mediocre vs ppl around it. :( With kings BP and very high perfection it could work, but kinda meh for anyone else, I think.

Ofc it works vs assassins, but windwalker's faceroll with that no stamina requiring aoe smash just is too op to really to be played against solo. Might try that water path next or maybe just go back to shield + BS and just play monk or warrior. :o

Hello Shagrat =)

You need to level witchery rune for any magic user build

King_Kai 05-18-2018 07:25

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Originally Posted by *~BeLLaDonna~* (Post 11980539)
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Hello Shagrat =)

You need to level witchery rune for any magic user build

and atleast 100 break.

Shagrat 05-18-2018 23:20

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Originally Posted by *~BeLLaDonna~* (Post 11980539)
Hello Shagrat =)

You need to level witchery rune for any magic user build

I was checking https://coevent.99.com/mysteriousrunes/ and thought that Witchery was pretty much useless because it says there:

"When the Magic Damage inflicted to a hero is lower than 15000 points, up to 6000 points of extra Magic Damage will be added, but the Final Magic Damage will not be more than 15000 points."

And I can do that without any runes but after opening detail it says:

"When the final magical damage is less than 22000, increase 6000 M-Damage."

so maybe it is not so bad after all, if it is the latter. :o


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